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Moms for Liberty and the ‘parental rights’ agenda flopped in 2023
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We have really got to stop letting these dishonest fuckwads claim the nominative high-ground.
It doesn’t hold up the moment you scrutinise the name.
Parents rights to what? The answer is basically “ownership” of their children. Fully control their children.
Children aren’t possessions, they’re people.
Yeah I support youth liberation. They obviously need guidance and all that, but guidance is not what these people are doing. They want their children to have no say in their lives and no information about the world
100% this
From the state's perspective, ownership of children makes some sense. It benefits the state to have a wide range in how children are raised, and they certainly don't want to be in the middle of it. Child Protective Services barely functions for the most extreme cases.
But this extreme withholding of information is a bit different.
I don't disagree with you; I just don't like the argument.
It’s not ownership. From the state perspective you don’t own your children. You can’t sell them, you can’t throw them in the garbage if they’re defective. It’s just insane. At best they’re dependents.
Shit from many “state perspectives” you don’t even own your fetus; you have less rights than it when it comes to health. Some states would rather see you die than the fetus. So much for state rights.
Also, and that’s an argument on your philosophy; even if it’s convenient on some aspect for a state to have a parent own their child, it’s not a winning strategy. States would spend more money and time that way than presuming children are people under the care of someone.
Yeah, good luck with that. Americans fall for "X for Freedom/Liberty" all the time.
Not that I put much stock in the latest poll that shows Biden trailing Trump in key states a whole year out, but it's an indicator that people are so fucking dumb, they can't remember how awful things were four years ago without being constantly reminded.
Conservative media goes out of its way to blame Biden for his successes. Even during the debate, Ramaswamy said that like 3 or so tons of fentanyl had been caught at the border. Others mentioned that "encounters" were higher than they've ever been before. And then they went on to blame Biden for his failure to secure the border as they praised him for succeeding.
Conservatives are liars superior.
What? You didn't vote yes on the Free Patriots Saving Children from Terror and Kicking Out Gay Commies act? What are ya? I mean, yeah, the fine print lets priests finger kids at school and gives rocket launchers to police departments, but so what? You don't wanna look like a lib; do ya?
Freedom to kneel for the anthem?
No not like that!!!!
Amen. They make their platform sound so moral until you look at their doctrine for more than a minute
This is why anything with “for liberty” or “right to” in the name immediately makes me suspicious.
I wish more people realized this. “Right to Farm” was just passed in Texas by voters by a wide margin - long term it just removes accountability from agricultural giants and even emboldens them to push out small farmers.
It was advertised as being for small farmers 🤦
Like so many conservative groups, their stated goals are really the opposite of what their actions show their real goals to be. MoL claims to support parental rights. But if they really support parental rights then they should be supporting my right to let my child have access to any book I choose in the library. I want them to have access to books about different races, and cultures, and lifestyles. This group wants to remove all books from school libraries that they feel are inappropriate. In other words, they are trying to take away my parental rights to decide for my child and instead only allow my child to access books that support a conservative agenda.
Moms for "Liberty"