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This comes after Palestinian students were physicallly assaulted by Zionists

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[–] Lemvi 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Thats nice and all, but that doesn't make concerns about the safety of Jews any less valid. The world has become significantly more dangerous for both Jews and Palestinians, and the fact that one group might have it worse does not take away from the concerns of the other. It's like the classic "Why are you depressed? Other people have it so much worse than you!"

Btw, hate crimes against Arabs are also antisemitism, as by definition both Jews and Arabs are Semites, so I'm not sure how useful this word is in the context of the current conflict.

[–] dannoffs 30 points 1 year ago

Btw, hate crimes against Arabs are also antisemitism, as by definition both Jews and Arabs are Semites, so I'm not sure how useful this word is in the context of the current conflict.

This is just wrong. Antisemitism has alway exclusively meant hating Jews.

Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who interpret it as referring to racist hatred directed at all "Semitic people" (i.e., those who speak Semitic languages, such as Arabs, Assyrians, and Arameans). This usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus (lit. 'antisemitism') was first used in print in Germany in 1879[17] as a "scientific-sounding term" for Judenhass (lit. 'Jew-hatred'),[18][19][20][21][22] and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.[18][23][24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

When media outlets and "advocacy organizations" lump violent attacks and Palestinian liberation chants together as "antisemitism", it creates an inflated sense of danger. It even makes people go out of their way to always mention the dangers faced by Jewish people even though the salient issue right now is islamophobia and Palestinian liberation against a genocide.

Consider also that we operate in a propaganda regime that conflates Jewishness and Zionism and where drawing attention to Zionist victimhood plays an important propaganda role for justifying settler colonialism, apartheid, and genocide for Zionists, such as the loser with a Zionist flag behind them in the post.

Also to nitpick, etymology isn't semantics - antisemitism means anti-Jewish even though there are other semitic peoples.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conflating zionism and all jews is antisemitism.

I bet the non-zionist jews at MIT feel perfectly safe. It's MIT ffs.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t be so sure about that, campus Zionists have been threatening Muslims and anti Zionist Jews while being aided and abetted by the admin.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The world's also a lot less safe for other Arabs (because they might be mistaken as Palestinian), Indians (because stupid mayos think they're Arabs), and actual Jews who are dark enough to look like the original Jews instead of Euro-mixed colonizers (could be attacked for being Jewish or mistaken as Palestinian and attacked for that), and also any East Asian person because China is even more doubleplus bad (going on in the background)

basically anyone who isn't lmayo just business as usual while they still own over half the world's land

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...you don't want to start this with them, this will only end bad. Be warned, you're going to be pulled into a debate.

[–] Lemvi 1 points 1 year ago

I don't mind, debates are fun. Makes you question your beliefs and consider new perspectives.