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[-] Minsk_trust@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Michael Luttig (via The Guardian)- “The former president is disqualified from holding the presidency again because he engaged in an insurrection or rebellion against the constitution of the United States when he attempted to remain in power, notwithstanding that the American people had voted to confer the power of the presidency upon Joe Biden.

“That constituted a rebellion against the executive vesting clause of the constitution, which limits the term of the president to four years unless he is re-elected by the American people. I cannot even begin to tell you how that is literally the most important two sentences in America today.”

Luttig draws a fine but important legal distinction between a rebellion against the constitution, as described by the 14th amendment section 3, and rebellion against the United States. He claims that groups that filed lawsuits in Colorado and elsewhere to bar Trump from the ballot are confused on this issue.

“They do not yet understand what disqualifies the former president, namely an insurrection or rebellion against the constitution. They have argued the cases as if he is disqualified because he engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.

“That’s why they have, unfortunately, focused their efforts on establishing or not that the former president was responsible for the riot on the Capitol. The riot on the Capitol is incidental to the question of whether he engaged in a rebellion against the constitution.”

But he adds: “All of these cases – and there’ll be others in the states – is the constitutional process by which the American people decide whether the former president is disqualified from the presidency in 2024. All of these cases are going to roll up to the supreme court of the United States and it will be decided by the supreme court whether Donald Trump is disqualified.”

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 36 points 10 months ago

All of these cases are going to roll up to the supreme court of the United States and it will be decided by the supreme court whether Donald Trump is disqualified.

Oh, good, and SCOTUS is definitely trustworthy here, right?

Right?

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just saw on the news yesterday that the Supreme Court has adopted a "code of ethics" for the first time ever, largely because at least half the justices are sleazeballs.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

SCOTUS didn't save Trump in 2020 and they're not going to do it in 2024 either.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 points 10 months ago

I think this was part of the gamble with lifetime appointments... Sure you don't have to maintain your position ... but you also don't have to maintain your position. Which means if you get in, there's nobody not even folks that helped you that you're subservient to.

In other words ... even the minority of justices that Trump appointed can backstab Trump at any moment without any repercussions.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

They do not yet understand what disqualifies the former president, namely an insurrection or rebellion against the constitution. They have argued the cases as if he is disqualified because he engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.

My god, what an asinine distinction to make. What difference does it make? The United States hardly exists without the Constitution and vice-versa. They're as close to one and the same as you can legally get, especially regarding insurrection and disloyalty against either.

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