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Are all these thousands of lemmy servers useless?
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this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2023
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Matrix suffers extremely of this issue. It feels like 95% or more are on matrix.org instance. And all major chat rooms are hosted there too.
I think something like a weekly cap for new registrations as an option would be good. With a hint to other instances.
It's kinda the same issue that some games have, like MMOs. People tend to make new accounts on the biggest and overloaded servers because there is the most activity even though stability could be an issue, or login queues.
But that doesn't make sense on matrix or Lemmy. Because you can still access all content no matter where you are.
Amen on matrix. Federating with most popular rooms on matrix.org basically brings my server to it's knees for a week trying to play catch up between federating users and their profile pictures and decrypting years of chat history. On my first go I made the mistake of trying to join #matrix:matrix.org and I had to wipe the entire server clean to get it back.
> Because you can still access all content no matter where you are.
If you know how and want to do it. Unfortunately, it isn't the way how most people think.
And fortunately, there's still time for people's minds to change. Federation and decentralization are things that aren't really advertised or mainstream yet so people still don't have a clue what it is. However, we do know how those things work, so I guess it's kind of up to us to help people know about how said things work.
I'd like to help with this improvement. Do you know any plans for it? Honestly, looks like that there is no "lemmy committee" and even lemmy's developers cannot organize something like this. Any ideas?
Nothing good can come out of a federation committee. Invite whoever you want wherever you want and give a little bias to smaller instances, and it should balance itself out.
I dont suggest adding a centralization =) I see two possible and actionable directions:
I'm confused about what you want. Why should I care about lemmy.ml being over run because they didn't put enough resources into their instance?
Because we are here because of content, made by users. I'm thinking about whole "lemmy-verse". If users encounter issues, they just stop using the service. You as an instance owner can choose to not participate. But if somebody already thinks rhat they helps, why not use it?
I'm getting plenty of content. Not sure what the issue is.
It's funny you mention MMOs, because FFXIV has a system that i'm now realizing feels like federated websites.
You have your home world(server) where your character was created and is stored server side, but you can matchmake within your data center as well as visit other servers in your data center.
And then you can also temporarily transfer to different data centers (though the implementation is clunky and has a few restrictions)
I still miss that game.
About Matrix and federation/rooms etc.
I know. My point was more like, what if matrix.org goes down tomorrow? My understanding is, nobody can login into their matrix.org accounts, right? But rooms and their admins are tied to that matrix.org account? So even if rooms will still be there because of alias/replicated to other federated instances. Who is gonna maintain it and moderate it then? My guess is, bigger rooms have set admins from different instances because of that?
I mean, I am not so much into matrix, I am more of a XMPP person. I hosted a public matrix synapse. And tbh, it was a real PITA compared to xmpp hosting. But ok, XMPP has other issues, too. So there is that.
Trying to host my own Synapse server once for my own use and seeing how it was chewing through every bit of resources on my server while providing an unusable slow experience has pretty much ruined Matrix as a whole for me as well as contributed significantly to my dislike for Python.
How long ago was this? Its in a much better state now.
A few years ago (3-4 maybe). It wasn't just a bit slow either, more like the server using the full 16 gigabytes of RAM and constantly at 100% CPU and channels not even being usable to read them 20 minutes after joining.
That was my experience as well, and I completely wrote it off. After having gone back to it, and after watching the matrix 2.0 preview on youtube, things are a lot better than they were, and looking a lot better in the future.
Maybe I will give it another try one of these days when I have some time.