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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Professors from across the country have long been lured to Florida's public colleges and universities, with the educators attracted to the research opportunities, student bodies, and the warm weather.

But for a swath of liberal-leaning professors, many of them holding highly coveted tenured positions, they've felt increasingly out of place in the Sunshine State. And some of them are pointing to the conservative administration of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis as the reason for their departures, according to The New York Times.

DeSantis, who was elected to the governorship in 2018 and was easily reelected last fall, has over the course of his tenure worked to put a conservative imprint on a state where moderation was once a driving force in state politics. In recent years, DeSantis has railed against the current process by which tenure is awarded, and with a largely compliant GOP-controlled legislature, he's imposed conservative education reforms across the state.

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[-] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You go live in a Christo-fascist shit hole. I'd rather take my family and go live somewhere safe, sane and better educated.

[-] kofe@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

I'm in one of these shit holes, and what's frustrating about your attitude is the privilege behind it assuming all of us can leave.

[-] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

I never said everyone can leave, I never even implied it.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] Schadrach 0 points 7 months ago

Similarly, today, when all the votes in your area have been neutralized by extreme gerrymandering

Exactly the wrong way to look at it. The way to overcome gerrymandering is to push higher turnout.

Short version is that in order to do that kind of extreme gerrymandering successfully, they have to make assumptions about what the vote will look like. One of those assumptions is that Dem turnout is lower than GOP turnout, because it is - GOP treat voting like a civic duty, Dems generally don't. This is why putting even mild roadblocks in front of voting (like having ID, or waiting in line, or w/e) favor the GOP - GOP voters will jump through whatever hoops are necessary to do their civic duty, Dems get dissuaded from voting with much less effort.

What this means is that if Dems turnout in force, they win. In most places they outnumber GOP, even in gerrymandered maps - they just have to actually vote en masse.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] Schadrach 0 points 7 months ago

No. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

It's literally impossible to draw districts in such a way that a minority party is the majority of voters in every district. You have to either pack the opposition into seats you are basically giving them to secure yours or you are doing some math on expected turnout and thinking how to promote turnout for your party and depress it for the opposition and aiming to win by a smallish but predictable margin.

It sounds an awful lot like you are in a very red state, and there isn't a blue majority that can hypothetically vote.

Or they've packed enough Dem voters into a single district (depending on the state not doing this can be considered illegal racial gerrymandering, depending on how majority-minority districts fit in - in some cases not having them is racist, in others packing minorities into them is racist). But that requires a small number of total districts, or surrendering more than one to the opposition (the more districts you have, the less impact surrendering one district gives you).

Really, we just need to switch to some fixed, abstract mathematical process that cares not about how people will vote and use that to draw district lines. Something like least split line. But that's a hard sell, because the people who would need to pass it are the people who benefit from it not existing.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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