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[-] irdc@derp.foo 60 points 6 months ago
[-] tesseract@beehaw.org 20 points 6 months ago

Either the Americans have very weird ideas about transportation or they're completely controlled by auto companies. I don't understand how they think that cars or this stupidloop is better than high speed rail. Traveling by train is far more relaxing, way less infuriating and leaves time for you to do something else meaningful. US is probably the only country that went back on rail transport. Every other country is taking it as far as they possibly can.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago

Either the Americans have very weird ideas about transportation or they're completely controlled by auto companies.

Consider both: we know the auto companies controlled the populace by destroying any choice. We also know that public transit is looked on as a plebes travel mode ripe for gutting at every turn so the rich (and those who are gonna be rich any day now) can benefit.

[-] YMS@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

US is probably the only country that went back on rail transport. Every other country is taking it as far as they possibly can.

I don't know for other countries, but Germany (that has a decent high-speed rail network, to be fair) had a rail network of almost 55,000 km in the 50s and less than 40,000 today. More than 300 train stations have been closed since the year 2000 alone.

EDIT: sources:
https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/bahn-schienennetz-deutschland-1835-bis-heute/
https://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/themen/aktuell/336-bahnhoefe-seit-2000-stillgelegt/

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

And high-speed trains are chronically late... :/

[-] YMS@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

Come on, almost two thirds of DB Fernverkehr's trains are punctual (if you accept DB's definition of punctuality, which allows six minutes of delay to still be counted as punctual).

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago
[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 6 months ago

And Australia. Frankly the whole anglosphere. Large parts of Asia, too. Vietnam's public transport is abysmal, and as the country imports more and more cars (over the motorbikes the country has historically been famous for) traffic is becoming absolutely insane.

Saigon has been building a metro since 2013 and still doesn't have even a single line in operation. (That's in no small part thanks to high levels of governmental corruption, rather than the same kind of car dependency in the west, but it comes down to a similar thing: money.)

[-] Neato@kbin.social 18 points 6 months ago

Musk HATES hates public transportation. Which is weird because he's in a private jet when he travels anyways.

[-] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 18 points 6 months ago

It's not weird at all, he owns a car company.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

And somehow convinced americans that single lane traffic jam lubes are a good idea.

[-] Smoke@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

...that's not hypocritical at all. Hates one because / so he uses the other and is used to the luxury.

[-] ripcord@kbin.social 15 points 6 months ago
[-] millie@beehaw.org 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It is so weird that people are still regularly linking to this Nazi's website like it's a totally fine thing to do.

[-] irdc@derp.foo 11 points 6 months ago

It just so happened to be the canonical source for this piece of information. And it wasn't being run by an antisemite at the time the linked tweet was being written.

[-] ripcord@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Even still, use nitter or something if you really have to.

[-] irdc@derp.foo 3 points 6 months ago

The tweet wasn’t easily available on nitter (it wasn’t being highlighted).

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 9 points 6 months ago

If there still isn't any high-speed rail I wouldn't say it failed...

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

Most of those lines have been in the works since I was in college (I graduated in 2005). In fact, I think the Clinton administration first announced the west coast line, and over a billion dollars was allocated to it by Obama. Not a single rail has been put down yet.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Several stops have been created for ca high speed rail in the valley

[-] StenSaksTapir@feddit.dk 6 points 6 months ago

I assume by "fail" you mean "didn't succeed in preventing California from building an efficient high-speed rail system", right?

[-] Pfnic@feddit.ch 5 points 6 months ago

It kind of did though. California HSR isn't doing very hot in the court of public opinion last time I heard about it

[-] irdc@derp.foo 2 points 6 months ago

Exactly. The good kind of failure.

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