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[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't tell what this is supposed to convey. They asked for a study. You give a bare url to an abstract with the quote

there is no clear consensus on whether non-sugar sweeteners are effective for long-term weight loss or maintenance, or if they are linked to other long-term health effects at intakes within the ADI.

Are you agreeing with the post you are replying to?

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They asked for a study. You give a bare url to an abstract with the quote

Perhaps you could download the entire meta study that is linked next to the abstract and go through it? And why does it matter whether I'm agreeing with the post?

From all the years of reading about artificial sugar studies, it's clear to me that there could be a risk but it is complex and varies from person to person, I find it misplaced to shout that there is absolutely no risk involved. To quote the study:

Result of this review largely agree with those of other recent systematic reviews, in that replacing sugars with NSS in the short term results in reductions in body weight, with little impact on other cardiometabolic risk factors, but is associated with increased risk of type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases and mortality in the longer term.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Perhaps you could download the entire meta study that is linked next to the abstract and go through it?

No, I am not refereeing a paper because some commenter links it in a web forum. Why would you think that's even close to what anyone should do in this environment?

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So let me get this straight, someone asks for a study, I provide the study of studies, which you misjudge originally for being only an abstract, and then when I correct you and tell you it's a study, suddenly it's not good enough. What do you actually want?

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What do you actually want?

I want conversation. Bare links are not that. Looking at the link led me to believe you providing evidence for the quack who was professing absolute safety.

Scientifically, I agree with you. I was asking the "absolute safety" commentor to provide context to studies to lead one to that conclusion. I would have been happy to read the same from you.

You have a lot to say for someone who is happy to slap a url down and move along. :)