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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 72 points 7 months ago

People talk about “Econ 101”, but even in my actual Macro 101 course, taught by a libertarian professor, we had good discussions about how broad metrics like “GDP growth”, “inflation”, or “unemployment” in themselves can be distorted or meaningless without drilling down and really understanding the numbers. The example the prof used was talking about a low unemployment rate but if a lot of people have just given up looking for work then just looking at that one rate will tell you very little about what’s really going on.

I just think it’s that libs know the economy sucks and are scared shitless because a bad economy means Trump wins.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 7 months ago

The whole “econ 101” bit has always been hilarious to me because in any other field of study I feel like the general understanding is a “101” course, undergrad whatever, is going to be intentionally simplified for the purposes of teaching broader ideas but as you learn more you find these explanations are inadequate on many levels. With economics however that surface level understanding is apparently enough to allow you to speak with confidence

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

With economics however that surface level understanding is apparently enough to allow you to speak with confidence

smuglord surface level understanding is all i need. Checkmate tankie

[-] Quexotic@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Exactly. This is the level of understanding employed by those saying that the economy is doing well. It's a cynical tactic to paint it in a rosy light as the wage workers struggle.

Also, I've only been through 100 level econ classes and it's clear that the economic metrics in use are not particularly meaningful.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

I just think it’s that libs know the economy sucks

Many will admit it, but they believe it is either unavoidable or delayed effects from Trump (may be partially true)

As well, the natural cycle of capitalist crisis leads people to think that a downturn is in fact a good thing because it means the recovery is already coming. It shields systemic flaws and corruption from any attention because obvious wrongs are construed as natural.

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

A 5% unemployment rate is "optimal" iirc and record low unemployment is actually a bad economic indicator according to the federal reserve.

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

The 5% unemployment goal is to ensure there's a reserve army of labor to depress wages. You're absolutely right that libs are ignoring the cognitive dissonance of ignoring that part of their ideology.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Yep, I'm a lieutenant in the reserve army of labor right here.

[-] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Why are american libs so scared of a trump win? There's literally no substantial difference between the worthless incumbent president of the us and his worthless political opponent

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

Because they believe his unconventional rhetoric as leading to policy that's harmful for the nation - meanwhile those who love him think it's the exact needed strategy to Make America Great Again

They know Trump isn't different; it's a question of perceived strategic differences.

[-] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Trump is doing nazi dog whistling and his cabinet members will be less competent and probably have worse traits like some of them thinking America needs to be a Christian state.

I think federal spending on things that directly help people will be higher under Biden [source I made it up]

Trump actively spreads a message of hate and intolerance by telling his fans that minorities are bad, so giving him a bigger platform would be a bad thing

Those are some of the reasons bouncing around in my head of why trump is worse

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

The example the prof used was talking about a low unemployment rate but if a lot of people have just given up looking for work then just looking at that one rate will tell you very little about what’s really going on.

That's something everyone in Italy and Poland knows lol, the joys of long economic crises.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

if a lot of people have just given up looking for work then just looking at that one rate will tell you very little about what’s really going on.

And this is exactly what's going on. Why are people going to even bother applying when porky-happy is so picky? If everyone "only hires the best" and I'm not "the best" why should I even bother applying?

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