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[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't think it's worth the effort to try and have conversations with people to try and convince them to not be fash collaborators(who should also get the wall). Capitalism can do no wrong in probably 90% of fash collaborators eyes. We've reached a point where capitalism could fuck everyone over even more and collaborators would blame communism. Republicans have always been the most shit group that exists. The part of the brain that creates fear is way too strong to overcome. My biggest desire is for every Republican/conservative to drop dead because the net positive would be huge. It'd be tough enough to overcome capitalism brainwashing on it's own, nevermind when you add all the racism/bigotry/religion to it. I've seen too much bullshit from Republicans since i first paid attention to politics in high school during Dubya Bush. I basically started off with "fuck these racists and bigots" and then Obama got me to "fuck all these capitalist shitheads."

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

There are definitely some people who we shouldn't even bother trying with. They're unlikely to move anyway, and even if they do, the effort spent moving them would be better spent moving many others.

The risk is putting so many people in that "don't even bother" category that we defeat ourselves from the jump. This is one reason I dislike the "social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism" meme (that notably even Stalin eventually rejected), as well as a major problem with the Settlers thesis -- if you write off the vast majority of politically active people right away, all you've done is create a recipe to accomplish nothing and feel right about it, i.e., defeatism with liberal characteristics.

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

if you write off the vast majority of politically active people right away

This is exactly the thing I'm wrestling with, thank you for addressing it ❤️

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