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Rednecks are historically left. Big on unions.
Historically Republicans were instrumental in abolishing slavery. Today's version wants it back.
Not the indiana kind.
Source: I grew up a conservative indiana flatbilly.
Mmmm political left and right don't align strictly on a union-supporting axis. Even left and right don't really mean much anymore, because the Conservative party isn't anchored to a specific set of ideologies the was Progressives are. A conservative will support a union when the union helps rhe conservative, will oppose the union when the union hurts the conservative, and will demonize the union when it helps them get elected by lathering up their base of voters.
Progressives support labor rights, equitable pay, and regulations that protect the safety and liberty of the worker. Progressives will support those ideals even when it does not help them directly.
Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the "left" and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the "right". But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists.
Whaa? "Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the “left” and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the “right”. But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists." You can't be a conservative Communist, its oxymoronic, dito for the other one too. If you call yourself a communist and have conservative ideals u are not a communist and should change your believes or be removed for communist spaces. On the other hand if you call yourself progressive and support capitalism you aren't progressive as capitalism is inherently oppressive. You can call yourself whatever you'd like but you have to walk the walk too, to be it.
Socialism is left/liberal as a concept (and so is capitalism, in actual fact)... It's not left/liberal when implemented at scale...
The arbiter of resources, whatever or whoever that may be, invariably becomes right/authoritarian. The simple nature of the arbitration causes it, and a truly left/liberal society would, by necessity, require a lack of said arbitration.
Such a society cannot exist at scale. History has proven that repeatedly. A left/liberal society could arguably only exist as anarchy, and frankly, capitalism is far closer to that than communism is. The "every man for himself" nature of capitalism is inherently more capable of providing individual liberty and equal opportunity than the "to each according to his needs", very simply because of the inherent requirement of having an entity judge that need... Said judging entity is inherently authoritarian in nature...
Of course you can be a conservative Communist. Most of China is both communist and conservative.
Ultimately, you can call yourself whatever you want.
China is not communist, just like the Nazi party was not socialist. And yeah you can yourself whatever you'd like but that doesn't make it true. I can call myself a invertebrate but my bones are still on the inside
China is socially conservative--and deeply authoritarian--but economically is officially communist (although not so much in practice, given that they have billionaires).