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Men do think about matters of the heart, but writing about it publicly could be seen as undignified, says journalist Imogen West-Knights

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[-] dumples@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Maybe nobody should be denigrating anyone and it is just, in itself, unfair to denigrate others?

I think this is a fair point and we should really avoid denigrating everyone. However, ignore any differences between any of the genders and their assumed roles is not helpful. There are differences we just need to recognize that one isn't better or more correct than the other.

P.S. the AITA subs are always kind of a mess. Especially with people justifying their terrible behavior.

[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

However, ignore any differences between any of the genders and their assumed roles is not helpful.

This is part of what I was saying in the first bit. There are absolutely differences in genders that should be recognized and respected. But context is key. Assuming women are the "underdogs in heterosexual dating" that does not translate to talk about dating. In the context of dating advice and online discussions about relationships, I very much disagree that women are underdogs. But the author is using this, presumably, to support the prior sentence's argument that women can "fairly" denigrate men in print for this reason.

[-] ChexMax@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago

But also, we're not talking about dating, we're talking about sex, and women are the definite underdogs when it comes to sex, or at least casual sex. The stats on who gets to orgasm through casual sex are just abysmal for heterosexual women... Maybe we all would benefit from sex columns for men more than we'd like to admit.

The amount of false info around, " it's just much harder for women to orgasm" and " a lot of women simply cannot orgasm no matter what" is pretty easily disproven by orgasm rates in homosexual female couples, which leads me to believe it's the men in the equation that lead to women having trouble orgasming, not some inevitability.

And this is all women are clear underdogs in sex before you even touch on the difference in dangers to men v women with sex /sexual violence/ coersion

[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Are you suggesting that those are valid reasons that "women [should be] allowed to denigrate men in print"? Because that's the thing I was talking about.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Why is that your sole data point here? What about amount of sex in general?

Men have less sex in general and do it less frequently, so by that metric men are the underdogs.

[-] dumples@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago

Great points about the orgasm gap.

[-] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

The AITA subs are mostly exercises in short fiction.

[-] joonazan@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

AITA is garbage because it isn't about finding the best course of action but about whether you can pretend that your behaviour is justified, which is not helpful.

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