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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/main@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Update: In light of the programming.dev update here https://programming.dev/post/8399272, the defederation is no longer going ahead.

However, something more needs to be said. Even here on Blahaj, some of our users took issue with the choice to defederate over this issue.

So I would like to give some background and context.

Blahaj Zone exists, because both Kaity and I left mainstream social media to escape transphobia. Reddit, with its lackluster approach to fighting transphobia, and twitter, with its outright celebration of transphobia pushed us here, to the fediverse, and to create Blahaj Zone and Blahaj Lemmy.

To that end, we will continue to treat transphobia seriously. Our goal is to create a space where gender diverse folk can exist and let our defenses down a little, where we don't have to worry about getting dragged in to an argument with a transphobe, or a bad faith actor "just asking questions".

If you are looking for a more reddit like experience, where in the interest of increased engagement, we let low level transphobia slide, and push responsibility for dealing with it on to community mods and individual users, then you will likely not be happy with blahaj going forward. If you choose to stay here, understand that we may defederate again in the future over similar issues.

The choice is yours.

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It has recently been brought to my attention that the lead admin of programming.dev is engaging in ongoing transphobia.

You can see the conversation in question here https://programming.dev/comment/6131539

For that reason we will be defederating from programming.dev in 48 hours.

There are only three communities on that instance used by small number of our users, so this won't have a big impact, but if you are one of those users, you will need to use an alt account on another instance if you wish to access the communities.

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[-] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is transphobic, almost all the people in that thread that are responding are trans, and as you can see by this thread and the other thread, the trans people on this site agree with the ones on hexbear on this issue

Trans people have a right to call out transphobia

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 18 points 11 months ago

Eh... I'd say thats a bunch of personal attacks being thrown around with some transpobic wording because its a "good" attack point in a enraged debate.

[-] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What do you mean by this, can you cite a specific example in the thread? Trans people are allowed to be mad when encountering transphobia.

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 3 points 11 months ago
[-] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ok, all of those are trans people responding to someone who misgendered a user and used transphobic talking points? You're allowed to be angry and make personal attacks against transphobes, transphobia itself is a personal attack against all trans people

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 7 points 11 months ago

https://programming.dev/comment/6154322

This is your misgendering... Bro he literally showed that he didn't see it and i think its rather respectful to use they in that regard if you don't know...

[-] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago

And he responded

Sorry, they really aren’t prominently displayed everywhere. And getting offended by it really isn’t helping your case here.

A sorry was enough, doubling down and complaining about trans people being offended is transphobia

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 10 points 11 months ago

You don't need to be offended every time someone uses the wrong pronounce... Especially when you get proof that its not intentionally. Just say please adress me as [she/him/they...] and don't play victim over something that insignificant

He is right in saying that it ain't helping the case, wich is objectively correct.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago

He was so close to deescalating and then doubled down on the escalation.

[-] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago
[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 6 points 11 months ago

Everyone is bro. Bro is gender neutral. Be glad i dont Bruh you!

[-] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago

nah, sis is a word. real dudebro moment

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 6 points 11 months ago

Making a difference between bro and sis makes it gendered. I bro gender neutral.

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