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This seems pretty non scientific. Crime stats are hard. The only organization that even comes close is the FBI and only because states are required to submit certain reporting.
Ok, here’s the FBI’s stats from 2019:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/california.xls
Violent crime rate per population:
Los Angeles: 0.73% Oakland: 1.25%
So it’s close to twice the crime rate of Los Angeles.
One year of crime stats doesn't measure change. Your argument is that the crime rate went up. You would need to provide numbers for at least ten years and ideally 20 or 30 to say anything about crime trends.
If you try and reply again be sure to include the metrics for which crimes went up, and which ones went down in the years you're concerned with. I think you'll find virtually everywhere in America is the same, and that violent crime has been on a consistent downward trend for the past thirty years and property and drug crimes have occasional spikes that track concurrently with significant economic disruptions.
Causes and solutions to criminal behavior are not a mystery. The only reason crime is still a significant problem in America is because on half of the voting public can't hold back their emotions and insist on using criminal justice to exact revenge, rather than rehabilitate and prevent.
I wasn’t arguing that crime is up in Oakland, that was the other guy. I’m just shocked at how bad Oakland is compared to the rest of California. California is a really nice place to live, so I’m surprised that one of our cities is that bad.
Oh word.