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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

IANAL but withholding evidence from a court order can hold you in contempt of court. I remember hearing a story of a person who was accused of having CSAM on an encrypted hard drive, and refused to decrypt it, and is in jail until he decrypts it. Just because you're a person doesn't mean you can ignore a warrant.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

information itself is a liability. best to have a policy of 'we keep no IPs in logs, so are happy to hand over whatever'.. dump data the moment you dont require it

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

yeah, this sounds like a much more sustainable solution. Do it the way signal does it. Collect as little as necessary, and delete it as soon as you dont need it.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just store what logs you need on a ram drive. The logs will be gone the instant the server shuts down and there is no way to recover them.

[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Downsides include : if any intrusion happens on the server, red team just needs to reboot it to wipe evidence.

[–] Perhyte@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If they have the root access typically needed to reboot a server^1^ they could also just wipe the logs without rebooting.

^1^: GUIs typically have a way to reboot without such privileges, but those are typically not installed on machines just used as servers.

[–] Davel23@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

I looked into that guy somewhat recently, he was in jail for something like five years then eventually released. Kind of a sickening situation all around.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Imagine contempt of court but you don’t live in the US