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To be honest, I think the internet is in desperate need of an alternative to the Chrome/Mozilla/Safari trio. Why can I can no longer get a browser that doesn't shove ads in my face and/or track my every move?
I know this isn't being designed as a browser for everyone. But I'm pleased to see making a web browser isn't an un-enterable area yet.
What's wrong with Mozilla?
Forces ads in my face via Firefox. Sometimes promotes commercial control of the internet. Is borderline for-profit at this stage with all the moneygrubbing and issues that comes with.
Don't get me wrong, they're the best of the lot by a long long way, but they're still problematic.
What? Where? I haven't seen an ad in Firefox since Carter was president.
Install Firefox with default settings > Look at your new tab page. They're all sponsored ads.
Firefox on mobile collects data and sends it off for marketing purposes, this can't be turned off.
Oh my gosh, that's messed up. And you can't even turn it off??!?
Servo's looking good too.
Servo has been the most exciting one to me for a while. Seems like one of the best foundations for a new browser.
No it's not. You have lots and lots of different browsers. Do we need another browser engine? Also not. They all do the same thing so while it's good to have some competition we definitely don't need yet another one.
We essentially have three different browsers, that definitively isn't "lots and lots". Every year they get together and agree on what measures can be foisted upon all users with or without their support. The rest are very little more than reskins of each other.
Ok, so what do you want your 4th, new browser to do differently? What's so different about it that you can't build it on top of Gecko?
It's not about a lack of features.
What is it about then? Rendering HTML and CSS in a new, fun way?
No? I've already said what it's about, and I'm not eager to repeat myself 'cause I feel vague meanyness.
What you said (if I understand you correctly, you didn't give any examples) boils down to breaking standards established by the current browsers. The standards that web developers and servers universally follow. If you want to build browser that will not follow standards you might just as well render HTML in non-standars ways. Most pages will not work anyway.