e; I wrote a better headline than the ABC editors decided to and excerpted a bit more
According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos' Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old.
Sixty-two percent of Americans think Trump, who is 77, is too old to serve as president. There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees -- 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump.
Concerns about both candidates' ages have increased since September when an ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74% of Americans thought Biden -- the oldest commander in chief in U.S. history -- was too old to serve another term as president, and 49% said the same about Trump.
Part that drew my eye,
The poll also comes days after the Senate failed to advance a bipartisan foreign aid bill with major new border provisions.
Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress' failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border -- with about the same number blaming the Republicans in Congress (53%), the Democrats (51%) and Biden (49%). Fewer, 39%, blame Trump.
More Americans trust that Trump would do a better job of handling immigration and the situation at the border than Biden -- 44%-26% -- according to the poll.
So that bipartisan border bill stunt was terrible policy, and it doesn't seem to have done anything for the Democratic party politically
Can we please stop trying to compromise with fascists now?
Biden could drop out and they could nominate a literal piece of driftwood covered in seagull shit, and I would vote for the driftwood if it were between that and Trump.
This might be the enlightened libertarian in me talking now, but I believe said driftwood would also be superior to Biden.
Driftwood probably wouldn't form the best cabinet though
I feel like I should give you money for this comment
You can always give money to the platform that made it possible - https://join-lemmy.org/donate
That seems like a good idea, but it hurts my ethical bones to give money to such blatant leftists.
I mean this is not just subtle dogwhistling: https://github.com/nutomic, https://github.com/dessalines
And again, as much as I appreciate honesty, I don't think I can support this with my money.
e: gave $20 to lemmy.world
Where's the donate link for Lemmy world? I was actually looking for that, but hitting the donate button on their homepage took me to that link in already posted.
I found https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld via lemmy.world frontpage.
Huh, I still wasn't able to find it there, but I did end up finding it through c/lemmyworld, so that's legit and I probably just need more coffee
Thanks for the info!
The best surprises come from unexpected places.
Which illustrates the missing piece of this conversation: When are we going to talk about the people who voted for him in the 2020 primaries? When are we going to state, repeatedly, voting for Biden in the 2020 primaries was a selfish and foolish thing to do?
Well, first thing i would do is insult them. Then I'd tell them who they were supposed to vote for.
Ah i see you already covered my main tactic. Now onto the spicy stuff: who's the candidate they're supposed to vote for? Or is it only important to vote for not-Biden? I'm curious who else would have crushed Trump in the election. Bernie?
Rather than attempt to defend my approach since you clearly disapprove of it help me understand what your plan is. The DNC primaries continue to produce shit candidates. How does that change?
I'm not claiming my plan is above judgement and your critique is certainly fair. But without an alternative to compare against those concerns are moot.
The Dem candidate is the representative for everyone who isn't an insane far-right theocratic fascist. You aren't going to convince anyone that they did anything wrong in 2020. People who don't like Biden today aren't the ones who voted for him in the primaries. We all voted for him anyway in the general because we don't like flushing our ballots down the toilet.
We will always have shit candidates until the general election uses an intelligent voting system such as score or STAR.
I'm not seeing anything in your comment about an alternative plan to change the outcome. Do you have a plan for changing the general election to use the voting system to use score or STAR?
Again, I'm okay with the critique of my approach but if you don't have one of your own then as you said "we will always have shit candidates".
I think if we're talking comments on the internet it is more effective to advocate for the different voting systems instead of shaming people over being wrong. But it sure is harder to imagine how either results in positive and measurable change.
IRL We need to get more people out voting, awareness campaigns for better voting systems, and aligned candidates who will make these systems happen from the municipal to the state level. Collective action works but it will take years or decades.
That's been the plan for at least two decades. It isn't working.
My bad, ok, continue telling people they were stupid and wrong, that will do the trick.
It might. You don't have any objections doing that with Republicans voters on the slim chance it'll make a difference yes? Why wouldn't you employ the same strategy with people who are electing shit candidates in the primaries?
Then again, we can be certain that Biden won Trump. It's possible that somebody else would have, too, but we cannot be certain. What is utterly dumb in 2024 was not so much in 2020, in my opinion.
There's an argument to be made he defeated Trump because there were leftists and progressives who were willing to give him a chance. Do you feel confident he can count on those votes for a second time?