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https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1759623139091243242

Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

Death to fascists

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago

Ash Sarkar can be pretty lib on certain elements surrounding the ussr but she's quick on her feet. Good interview.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

I've never quite been able to get a read on Sarkar or Novara Media in general.

This is based on nothing but hunch (I've never read Bastani's Fully Automated Luxury Communism or anything) but they feel kinda trot to me.

Sarkar isn't afraid of saying they're a communist but then the lib takes on the USSR and stuff, it's either an attempt to build a viewerbase of the progressive left or it's trot but idk which.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've never quite been able to get a read on Sarkar or Novara Media in general.

Novara are trots. Sarkar possibly isn't but doesn't strike me as having read much theory. Pretty sure that she's soaked up what she does know from the people she's been around her whole life, a socially produced communist that was likely surrounded by trots.

Corbyn, John Mcdonnell and Dianne Abbott have better positions than her, and come across as genuinely well read communists. Corbyn and Dianne feel like MLs doing pragmatic electoralism. Dianne in particular defended Mao on national television. John has literally called for violent insurrection and property destruction at rallies I've been at. All of them are significantly better than Ash and we'd be so much worse off without them.

[-] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

There are no non-Trots in the UK, this is literally the best we can do.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

Yeah, by the looks of it even Tony Benn was cosy with the Trotskyists.

This just reinforces the case for an unlimited Brexit.

[-] THIRD_WORLDIST@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago
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