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How strong is Wagner compared to Russian military? Are we talking ~1/10 of the strength, 1/100, 1/1000?
wagner had 50k in dec 2022 and it was probably peak, before february 2022 ru army had 300k active duty, so i'd say it's somewhere between 1/10 and 1/100. closer to 1/100
The main problem is that if they really started fighting, Wagner is wholly reliant on the Russian army to support them with ammunition. Wagner has no logistics and would quickly crumble from it.
oh yeah this counts manpower only, and maybe small arms and some light equipment are in similar proportions. wagner has, for its size, little heavy equipment, virtually no engineering equipment, and shoiguu where is my ammunition
Would it be good for Ukraine if they supported wagner, even just a little bit, if they decide to turn against Putin? Maybe just enough to keep them a threat, but not enough to give them a chance of achieving anything significant.
i think that's the job of RDK, but don't quote me on this
Wow thats a lot more than I expected. I thought they are just a loud bunch of mercenaries. They can actually do some decent damage if they decide to turn on putin.
that was their peak, remember just bakhmut ground down low tens of thousands of them (20k? 25k?)
I never really paid a lot of attention to the numbers. I'll definitely start now.
I don't think its helpful to draw a distinction between the two. Wagner is part of Russia's military.