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Yeah, subby. We get it. "Both sides are bad." But one side is boring corporatists who don't give a crap and the other side is 100% concentrated evil fascists, authoritarians and religious nutjobs. And while that's a choice between the lesser of two evils, it's not a difficult one.
That may have been the point of the original comic, but given the caption, I think OP's point wasn't that both sides are bad, but was that a two party system is inherently biased towards corporate capture.
That’s the problem with this “both sides” take. Yes, there is no true leftist party in the US. They’re both corporatists. The Republicans are undeniably much worse, though. Anti-union, anti other labor rights, oppose every kind of social safety net, want to privatize (loot) and profit from public assets, are thoroughly in favor of racist classist policies of every type imaginable. Some democrats are too, but ALL republicans are like that.
We do get it. It's obvious. It's so obvious that the only people still supporting FPTP are in favor of it; they don't give a crap about selling us out to fascists.
And the "not fascists" angle worked a lot better when they weren't aiding a genocide.
As opposed to the alternative who is in rabid support of multiple genocides...? You are SO smart and totally know what you are talking about.
Nobody here is disputing that the Republicans are fascists.
There's other choices. Moderates and Biden could choose to compromise with leftists and progressives any time. But all signs point to them preferring to lose to fascists a second time.
No, there are two choices. It sucks and nobody likes it but if you don't vote for a Dem you are giving a vote to a Rep. Cut the crap.
Moderates like it just fine. They're happy continuing to elect awful pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting piece of shit candidates and then expecting leftists and progressives to support them in the general. If moderates didn't like it they would have voted for one of the many alternatives in the 2020 primaries.
You need to cut the crap. Stop lecturing leftists and progressives and giving moderates a free pass. Moderates are the majority voting bloc for Democrats and thus they take the lions share of the responsibility. Spend your effort lecturing them.
I'm further left than you but anyone with a brain knows that it's a two party system and any vote for any other party is just pissing in the ocean. Find change inside the party with progressives but at the end of the day you (unfortunately) either vote blue or red or you might as well not vote at all.
You can call yourself whatever you want but if at the end of the day you vote like a moderate your beliefs make no difference.
But if you vote for a fringe party your beliefs matter more?
No. I'm fine with voting 3rd party or writing in knowing they'll likely not be elected. Are moderates fine with Biden losing to Trump? If not then they need to find some policy to compromise on in order to encourage progressives and leftists to vote for Biden again. We compromised in 2020 and voted for Joe Biden in the general. We've gotten fuck all for it. It's time for a compromise in the other direction. There's no point for us to stand around a table when moderates refuse to give us a seat.
I wish you luck with that
Good luck endlessly lecturing leftists and progressives while giving moderates a free pass being selfish pieces of shit.
Let's talk when someone other than a dictator wannabe has secured the presidency.
You mean like for the past four years? You all just ignored us. If you want our votes then talk to us now.
Corporations pay evil fascists to be evil fascist so you could choose "lesser evil"
Sounds in no way like qanon level dipshittery
Sounds like average election candidates in Russia.
UR always makes themselves to look like lesser evil. "Look at these clowns", "old thief is fed up, new one will be hungry and steal more", "look how experienced we are". If they don't have 1, 2 or 4th, they will make their own janitor to run against them, so they will look like "lesser evil".
Btw janitor won.