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These new plane loss rates indicates to me the ukraine has some new weapon. I suspect they may finally be fielding some f16s.
Its more likely it's the patriot or updated s200.
It could be a large rock. It works for crazy people on freeway overpasses and it can't be fooled by chaff or flares. A rock is a rock and it will do rock things. Like nothing. You wouldn't want nothing to happen to your flying jet do you?
Belta lowdah knows the way. Send the rock sa sa, que no?
I almost hope putin goes out with a rock. It could be a small one right to the head. It could be a 400lb one anywhere on the body really. Sure if the US could fucking donate an F16 with a rock delivery bay door, that would be great 😃. But otherwise, hey if rocks are available, rocks are the weapon.
I hope Putin ends up having to go into hiding after the country and the oligarchs turn against him because the three day war hits 3 years and the money dries up.
Then when he's captured he has to endure a trial while one of the oligarchs goes full capitalist, becomes president to organize a treaty with Ukraine, all sanctions are removed, borders are restored, trade strengthens the region so the people can prosper and Putin has to watch his dream of conquest disappear.
Then Putin gets shot by a firing squad. The end.
@normanwall @werefreeatlast
Pure fantasy, but quite an appealing one. Putin's successor has already been selected by Putin and his inner circle. He has been shadowing Putin since before the war. He is a political clone of Putin. When Putin dies the transition will be seamless.
Putin will be remembered as a Hero of Russia.
Do you have a photo of the guy? That's probably the first step in killing the guy. I do have to agree though, it will take more persuasion to improve capitalism in ruzzia.
@werefreeatlast
No photo. I haven't heard that there are any circulating.
Ok well let's keep on looking, that guy needs to be in the cross hairs asap before he turns.
had to scroll up to make sure i wasnt on NCD
A rock can help 👍.
Can I have some of what you’re on?
Y’all want some of this rock?
Just watch out for paper.
U saw har far behind the lines the latest big fuck off command plane thing was. Seems awfully long distance to be a missile.
S-200 can do that distance though. Has a range out to 150 miles. They're gigantic.
Yes, I'm just surprised they still have those. They are really in a bad shape right now and these few downed airplanes don't mean much.
The article is talking about a possible death spiral of the Russian air force. I think that means something.
A lot of hopium. Same stuff we heard since the start of the war. First it was food, then equipment, then shells, troops, missiles,... And looking at the the Russian army today it's fed, well equipped, as many shells as they need, new drones, missiles in production, planes in production. Not to mention new motivation as they see the west faltering in their resolve to help Ukraine. Russia is in war economy, unfortunately it's not running out of anything anytime soon. They are not that stupid and will adapt if the losses become unmanageable.
I guess if you just ignore the fact that Ukraine has downed 11 (+?) planes in the past 11 days, maybe you could call that sentiment hopium.
I do agree, things aren't looking great with the US (not the whole West, by the way) delaying aid. But what was supposedly the second greatest military in the world is stuck in a quagmire with a neighboring country a fraction of its size. They are making only minor progress at enormous cost.
It's a waiting game. Neither of us have the facts about what is actually happening with the Russian military or economy. Saying that, I don't think you can dismiss the recent losses by Russia as insignificant.
I'm not ignoring these legit military successes, I'm saying that we can't expect them to continue until Russia is out of planes.
The fact that Ukraine has stood up to Russia for so long means nothing if they lose in the end. And right now Ukraine is losing. It's losing lives and land and its only losing because we in the west didnt and still don't fulfill our promises and our obligations and our leaders pussy foot around what weapons to send.
The US only stopped sending as much aid because of Russian assets in Congress. Lame way of trying to make it seem like the Budapest accords weren't unilaterally violated by one of the signatories.
Lol, no, it is not
Too many deserters showing up severely malnourished for that to be the case
Too many documented cases of unusable or plain fake equipment, like plastic helmets, or artillery rounds missing propellant, rusted rifles, etc
So victory in a few weeks? Nice!
Missle tech has come really far. for example, thaad has a flight ceiling of 93 miles, and the tomahawk land attack missle has a range of 1550 miles.