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Online vape seller has ‘no intention of stopping’ shipments to Australia, despite nationwide ban — ‘We have no intention of stopping just because of one twat in Canberra.’::The New Zealand-based seller issued a notice to its Australian customers that shipments will continue regardless of the government's vape reform.

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[-] deranger@lemmy.world 206 points 5 months ago

Leave vaping alone, but ban those single use vapes with rechargable lithium ion batteries in them. It’s absolutely insane to me the amount of waste from throwing out perfectly good rechargeable batteries after one cycle.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 64 points 5 months ago

They banned it in its entirety in Australia for health reasons and the children.

Smokes are A ok though

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-65446352

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 5 months ago
[-] ephemeral_gibbon@aussie.zone 15 points 5 months ago

Sort of, but honestly the vapes have created a new generation of smokers and they should have banned them much sooner (unless you have a prescription and actual plan to use them to quit smoking). They were much easier for new people to get into and we went from smoking dying out to a sizeable number of young smokers.

The tobacco companies have done very well out of vaping

[-] Instigate@aussie.zone 8 points 5 months ago

If the government, 5-10 years ago when it would have been apropos to do so, looked into vaping and drew up specific regulations to have legal vaping, we wouldn’t have the issue we have today. Instead, because of almost a decade of inaction, we now have a new generation of nicotine addicts that they’re hurriedly trying to stop.

We needed regulated, plain-packaged and limited-flavour vapes available to legally buy at a reasonable price to quash out both smoking and prevent kids from getting addicted, but that horse has already bolted.

The cynic in me says they intentionally didn’t regulate vapes because the science wasn’t ready yet, and they didn’t want to accept any blame for legalising something that could end up to be pretty harmful in the long term. So, because they didn’t want to accept that risk then we now have a whole generation of vapers whose health issues we’ll be dealing with for 80+ years to come.

Spoken as an ex-smoker, current vaper as a smoking cessation method.

[-] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 7 points 5 months ago

You had me until "limited flavor", why? How is the alcohol industry allowed to create insane flavors (blue raspberry, literally any fruit, rocket popsicle, etc) but the tobacco industry can't? Makes no sense.

Adults should be allowed to enjoy things they want to. Perhaps if the government was stricter with id laws and online ordering we wouldn't be in this situation. There are far too many shops I've seen that don't check ID and THAT is how kids are getting them. The flavors have nothing to do with it (remember, terrible flavors didn't stop kids of the 80s from smoking).

IMO it has more to do with online glorification than anything else

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

Back in my day kids smoked Marlboros because they were cool. Not because they tasted like fruit loops.

As someone who used to smoke 1-2 packs a day, got heavy into vaping (including building my own coils, mods, mixing juice, etc), quit completely by tapering down the nicotine levels, later started back up with pouches, and now vapes pot, I gotta say, banning flavors is fucking stupid.

My state of Massachusetts has banned all flavors of tobacco and vape, Including menthol. You can only get vapor products in unflavored or “tobacco” variants.

The funny thing is, “tobacco” isn’t really a “flavor”. It’s still flavor additives put into the suspension. So the additives clearly aren’t the problem. Tobacco flavored vape products are usually some combination of maple, charred brown sugar, and molasses. Not the actual ingredients, just flavorings that approximate them.

And the additives are generally food grade flavorings. You can legit just go out to Homegoods and buy a pack (as long as you know the right ones, don’t do this at home) and steep a very small amount of whatever flavors you want into your unflavored nic.

[-] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 1 points 5 months ago

My point exactly, the flavors are not the problem. A lot of states have banned them yet the problem persists, because it was never about the flavors. It's 100% a social thing IMO, online glorification and peer pressure.

Not peer pressure like how its depicted in the media, but real peer pressure. Your friends vape, and they're always vaping around you -- then one day you get a little curious about it and it snowballs from there.

[-] Instigate@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

That’s a fair call. I just think all reasonable measures should be taken to limit the attractiveness of vapes to children, and that’s just one piece of the puzzle. It’s not a necessary piece, but I think it would have helped as part of a suite of measures to regulation. I think you’re right in that online glorification definitely had a role to play here as well.

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

Bleh. Vaping isn't smoking and it's not harmful, while nicotine is generally good for the mind and only a fairly mild stim, I couldn't imagine my mornings without some nicotine, amphetamine and caffeine.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 5 months ago
[-] BaskinRobbins@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago

The disposable one I'm using has a rechargeable battery and an LCD screen lol. So wasteful. I've been saving my dead ones and will be salvaging the battery and screens for a side project.

[-] Ostrichgrif@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

Just out of curiosity what's preventing you from getting a refillable setup? You can get refillable, rechargable vapes for about $10 more than a single disposable and it'll probably save you money within the month depending on how much you use it.

[-] BaskinRobbins@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Well I wasn't planning on vaping for very long, just enough to stop smoking. However, I finally did get honest with myself and get a refillable not too long ago.

[-] Fisch@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it was exactly like that for me too. Bought a few disposables (still have them in my drawer, will probably bring them to the supermarket for recycling at some point) because I didn't want to actually start vaping but realized that I already did.

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