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Indeed, which is why China has such a great track record w.r.t. deaths by cop as another poster in this thread pointed out, having disarmed cops (withing a wider disarmed society).
Fundamentally China still has cops though. They still have some that are armed too. So at the end of the day, it comes back around to proletarian cops being necessary
The People's Police is unarmed.
The People's Armed Police is their version of the National Guard. It sprung out of the PLA and answers to the Military Comission and nobody else, unlike the civilian police. Nobody in this tread, or for that matter on this website is arguing that a socialist military should be armed with foam swords.
The fact you're conflating the two just to be able to say "some chinese cops have guns" makes you look like you're grasping at straws.
The People's Armed Police are Proletarian Cops.
You're just playing word games, whether the prole cops are under the jurisdiction of the military or the civil government doesn't change the fundamental relationship and role. Socialist revolutions will have armed bodies of people enforcing state monopoly on violence, and that's fine and necessary. I'm not going to play along with the anarchist word games where we have cops but don't call them cops (to idk, make ourselves feel better?). it's flimsy and easy to see through.
look man, if you think the difference between "police" and "paramilitary" is "word games" and they mean the same thing then you got me, i have to agree with you, we'll have armed police, because i think armed paramilitaries are necessary
They are literally called “Armed Police” and you are acting like they aren’t armed police lmao