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196 Stands with Palestine, but those of you in the US should still vote in the general election. (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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I've been seeing a lot of anti-voting sentiment going around. Can't believe I have to say this, but you need to vote. Not only is there more to the election than just the president. (State policy, Senate, house), but not voting is not an act of protest. C'mon guys

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[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh, I'll be voting.

For Claudia De La Cruz.

EDIT: People hard mad about this lmao

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 months ago

So basically you won't be voting.

You will make no measurable impact on the outcome of the election. The election where one of two specific people will take power. And one of them already tried to end American democracy.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

She can win if you vote for her 😘

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

No she fucking can't.

Grow up.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Grow up and vote for the genocide, sweaty.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Tell me with a straight face The Idiot would do anything better, vis-a-vis Israel. Lie to me good.

Moral dilemmas don't go away if you smug at them hard enough.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

First candidate to not support genocide gets my vote.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 5 months ago

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

Yes, idiot child who thinks alternating caps is a counterargument, grow the fuck up.

I am eligible for the US presidency. I am equally likely to win. I am fucking nobody. So is your masturbatory, performative waste of a vote.

Don't allow fascism to seize a country just so you can feel smug superiority. Asshole.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Third party candidates might have a chance if we convince our political leaders to switch to ranked choice voting, so we'll be able to write "I'd like her to win, but I'd still prefer Biden to Trump" on our ballots. In that case, even if the rest of the nation didn't agree with us, we still wouldn't have someone who calls immigrants vermin in the white house. With first past the post, nobody who doesn't have a D or R next to their name has a ghost of a chance.

No one knows who Claudia de la Cruz even is. Unless you want to become her campaign manager, that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you managed to convince two thirds of the people who would've voted for Biden to vote for her instead, Trump would still win because half the nation voted for him and only a third voted for her.

She doesn't have a chance. Grow up and don't waste your vote. Way things are right now, you only get one.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Ranked Choice is a specific use of ranked ballots and it kind of sucks. You want Ranked Pairs.

Or just Approval Voting, where people check every name they like. Same ballots as now. Most votes wins. It is literally that simple and it matches optimal results. There is no good reason it's not the default. What we're doing now just plain sucks.

[-] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 months ago

Okay I mean this is marginally better, at least you're voting, but still until some sort of change happens a vote third party is a vote thrown away

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I'm not suggesting voting third party or protest voting, I personally plan on voting for whoever has the Democrat party's backing come the general. However, I do want to ask, what do you believe is a realistic plan for gaining that change?

The people that are voting third party or not voting are doing so because they believe that's the best option for change. Even if I disagree with that, how can we show them a better path?

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

2000 was decided by hundreds of votes. 2020 was decided by thousands of votes. Don't play stupid games with democracy, to risk an outright fascist doing the horrible shit he's openly said he wants to do.

Only two candidates stand any chance of winning.

One of them tried subverting the 2020 election in at least seven distinct criminal attacks. And he's even more of an Israel fanboy. You gain absolutely fucking nothing by pretending your no-name no-chance nobody is some kind of statement. Make statements with your mouth. Use your ballot to prevent electing a dictator.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Looked her up. What a legend! Will definitely be using her name in plave of blank "vote third party" from here out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_de_la_Cruz