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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

Someone who knows me IRL, as in by name, reported me to the Estonian State Security Agency probably for that one time I flipped the bird at the Foreign Ministry or attending a Palestinian rally, waving both the South African and Palestinian flag, while donning a keffiyeh and one of those fancy hats from Nigeria. Most likely they recognized me from pictures taken.

PIGPOOPBALLS

UPDATE: The 3-hours long discussion was nowhere near as horrific as I'd envision. Even in this BalticraKKKer land, I was able to pretty openly like... quite literally, post. To put it briefly, it was basically explaining historic/material analysis and what critical support means. In the least likeliest of all places, lmao.

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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago

Reminder to people that it's important to be careful in what you do online and irl.

I always admire the bravery of adventurists, don't get me wrong, but little gets achieved by even the most stupendous acts of bravery by people like Aaron Bushnell or Willem van Spronsen (I haven't forgotten van Spronsen but, unfortunately, the world has).

I see people who post things online and I hear of people doing things irl that are going to attract the attention of the feds that I also count as a form of adventurism, and I also have a sincere appreciation of the courage it takes to do these things but we must remember that the internet is where praxis goes to die; nothing truly gets achieved online and that means fedbait posting likewise achieves nothing. We must also remember that attracting the attention of the feds through irl actions isn't going to achieve our goals; it won't help anyone in Palestine if we get ourselves arrested and thrown in jail because we happened to chant the wrong thing for fly the wrong flag. (Well I suppose it might help the settlers in Palestine...)

If you get yourself arrested for direct action like participating in a blockade, you have my uncritical support but if you get yourself arrested because you are publicly voicing your support for Hamas or you are flying the flag of the PFLP, you have my dismay.

Our governments would love nothing more than to have the pretext to surveil, infiltrate, and imprison us. We should not hand them that pretext willingly.

What's the difference between adventurism and getting the goods? It has always been a matter of timing and mass support.

Learn from Aleksandr Ulyanov and always remember the reason why the only Ulyanov family member that the world remembers is Vladimir. Stay safe out there!

[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, I haven't done anything of the sort like waving the Hamas flag nor chanting "infinite 7 Octobers on Shitrael" even while I was living in South Africa, where it would be perfectly legal. It probably really is some witch-hunt by some anti-cracker-aktion who reads Estonian news and recognizes me, some guy from South Africa here in Tallinn, in a rally and instantly thinks "Hamas" because reddit-logo/eesti says so due to the ICJ case.

Also I'll be logout by the time I'm there

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

Oh, there's no doubt in my mind that what's going on for you is due to some fuckwit who'd be the first person in the crowd to start goose-stepping when the fascists are marching in the streets.

I'm not trying to imply that you have personally done something ill-conceived, I'm just using your post to remind people that we should make sure we aren't handing any free kicks to the people we oppose. If we aren't preparing for the day when we get that knock at the door then we will be caught unaware, and that's usually how they get you.

With that in mind, it would be a terrible affront to common decency if somebody was going around chanting "infinite 7 Octobers on Shitrael".

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

Willem van Spronsen

willem-van-spronsen They've updated his emoji to his proper name! fidel-salute-big

Thank you, @WhyEssEff@hexbear.net stalin-heart

[-] Anne_Teefa@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

Did a quick Google search and saw an NPR article claiming he's become a symbol for the left and the right.... desolate left is when progressive, right is when adventurism and violence

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

arrested because you are publicly voicing your support for Hamas or you are flying the flag of the PFLP

Is this illegal in the states, or how can I check? I always assumed it was fine here (but they'd try and charge you with something else, obv they're pigs (and yes I know OP isn't))

[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In most of the eu-cool it's illegal to display the even the Palestinian flag, which will be instantly taken as your typical "Hamas hamas hamas hamas hamas" drivel. Maybe in :estonia-burning: it isn't illegal de jure as of yet...

But it's expected they will also now start throwing shade at South Africa too, all things considered.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

Fuck that's grim. The EU is such a hellhole.

Wishing you the best in your case!

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

they can do electronic spying on an unlimited number of us but eventually they need to send somebody in to try to entrap us and they don't have unlimited capacity for that.

i wonder if a deluge of dead-end fedposting would be useful cover for the people trying to do real shit.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

Endless fedposting would just get the site taken down or end up justifying the FBI getting more money.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

well yeah it needs to be spread out so they can't just seize a domain

[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

.cn domain when

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