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Strategically, from the US perspective, it was an enormously effective flex. It doesn't matter what Putin says to his people, or the world, but now he knows that the US knew, and could have said nothing. Charles de Gaulle once said, "No nation has friends, only interests."
Pretty sure Kissinger said that; the us does not have allies or enemies, only interests.
People says Kissenger paraphrased this with "America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests" - afaik there's no evidence of this but either way the quote's older than he is.
Seems often it's like this with simple quotes.
First thing I pulled up said it was de Gaulle. I rather suspect Kissinger got it from de Gaulle, who got it from Palmerston. My point is that I didn't make it up. And this thread demonstrates that it is a long standing sentiment.
Honestly its one of those sentiments thats probably been around for millenia. A similar pair of qoutes comes to mind.
"Speak sofly and carry a big stick" -Theodore Roosevelt
"Hope for peace prepare for war" -Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
This is true, but sometimes strategic interests actually does line up with the morally correct thing to do.
I wish that was the rule and not the exception
It actually happens most of the time, but people peacefully coexisting with one another is boring and war is exciting. So we tend to only talk about the war. Lately it's gotten so people have been actively denying peace and cooperation even exist which is really bizarre.
Go outside touch grass yadda yadda, and consider traveling to any of the many many countries of the world that aren't in a war. You'll find that peace and cooperation is actually the norm, and the fucked up scenarios you see on the news are actually the exceptions.