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UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Passed. US Abstaining with no veto. BTW it also calls for immediate and unconditional release of hostages.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Biden is playing diplomatic chess. Netanyahu warned the US before the vote that Israel would not participate in a meeting if the US didn't use its veto. So, now the US didn't. BTW, Hamas launched rockets at Ashdod right before the Security Council voted confirming its status as an equal fighting party in the war before a ceasefire.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming "genocide Joe" think it is???? Shocking.

[–] soratoyuki@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (12 children)

No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you suppose that Bibi believes there are ramifications for going into Rafah now?

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

So you're saying that Biden had another motivation here: telling Netanyahu, "the US ain't nobody's bitch, and you don't tell me what to do."

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Multiple polls had Biden ahead of Trump before this happened too.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

USA because it took this many decades to merely abstain and and not veto.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've been vetoing, the proper action would have been to vote to pass.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Abstaining has exactly the same effect.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Sends a different message though.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The best time to abstain would have been decades ago, but the second-best time is now. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good; this was a good choice.

Edit: The downvotes are hard to interpret. Do people think the US abstaining (and thus allowing the resolution to pass) was not a good choice?

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

this was a good choice.

Abstention is, by definition, the refusal to make a choice. And if you are not against oppression, then you favor the status quo.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how it actually works, though. They knew that by not opposing it would result in the measure passing. Choosing to abstain is a choice.