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After months of bickering Congress remains completely unable to agree on any legislation on border security or aid to Israel and Ukraine — all priorities that a majority of lawmakers agree are needed.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 28 points 7 months ago

Frankly, it’s not Congress - it’s the House Republicans. They got what they said they wanted. They didn’t have a plan for if they got what they said they wanted. But they don’t want to “give Biden a win”, so they’re going to throw away the deal that gives them what they said they wanted. That’s gonna play real fuckin bad with their base come November.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

The republicans that I know don't give a shit. They don't pay any attention to what their politicians do, and they don't want to hear about it, either. If they do somehow learn that republicans aren't supporting the very thing they asked for, all it'll take to convince them that's a good thing is someone on fox news saying it somehow wasn't really going to do what they wanted, and they'll accept it without any further elaboration. It doesn't matter if it's a lie - they'll never know or care.

[-] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I get different answers.

"It's too late now".
"They're (Dems) are just trying to save face.".
"That bill is so packed with other things... You can't trust it.".

They will just always give their party the benefit of the doubt.

[-] eating3645@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

I think you're giving the base too much credit...

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Even if the base were swayed by this (they aren't), they will literally never hear about this. They live in a completely different reality. Right wing media has totally insulated these people from the real world.

And even if you could somehow break the magical Hogwarts spell that is right wing media, the idea that someone would change their position based on new information is inherently bad to conservatives.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

They got what they said they wanted. They didn’t have a plan for if they got what they said they wanted.

Which is odd. They're dealing with Democrats here, so they should have anticipated total capitulation.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

The GOP base won't hear, or if they do, they'll hear a spin.

I'm disgusted having to vote strait D when those cowards won't fight back. This situation should be all over broadcast TV and radio. The Democrats should flood social media with this.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Every Republican I know thinks it's the Democrats fault because they think they tried to make a bunch of concessions.

[-] dugmeup@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

So much for Republicans' good faith ... Which never existed in the Trump era

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Gingrich was the one that codified conservative obstructionism.

[-] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago
[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Well if Republicans couldn't name stuff after sex criminals, they wouldn't get to name very many things.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Repubs gave up the thin veneer of working in the public interest under Gingrich. The last time they actually worked in the public interest is when they teamed up with democrats and forced Nixon to fuck off.

[-] GreenEnigma@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

It’s all theater.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Any time a Republican complains about anything from now on, it's their own fault. Simple.

Joe Biden is your next president.

[-] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Anytime a Republican complains about something, they are deflecting something else. They are not "good actors", they do not argue genuinely, they do not want what they say they want and they will not say what they actually want.

[-] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

the republican congress is causing all of this chaos, but because their republican congressperson isn't the one making this mess they will be reelected back to congress.

I was once told to never blame the voters, blame the elected people. yeah, no fuck that. I absolutely blame the degenerate regressive voters who intentionally put chaos agents in power. when uvalde in the aftermath of the robb elementary shooting where

  • elementary school kids died
  • the shooter was barely 18 with multiple assault weapons legally obtained
  • the local police stood outside for hours after the shooting started doing nothing

still overwhelmingly votes for abbott, blame the voters because the voters are the problem.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

The only persons opinion that really matters is that of the chair. As long as he does not put a bill on the floor any discussion is useless.

Have him put it to a vote and see.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Republicans are worthless traitor swine.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Republicans now officially own the border crisis

[-] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

I know the rules essentially state no editorializing the post titles, but in situations like this it should be amended to change the title from "Congress devolves into chaos..." to "REPUBLICANS devolves into chaos...". it's the republican's show in the house. the democrats don't have much of anything to do with house business.

headlines like this perpetuate the both sides bullshit nonsense that ruining political discussion and has put democracy at risk.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A bipartisan Senate package that paired border security measures with assistance to Israel and Ukraine appeared all but dead Tuesday, after Republicans backed away from the deal amid growing criticism from the right.

The bill in question was specifically crafted to meet GOP demands that Democrats link border policy changes to President Biden's request for military aid to Israel and Ukraine.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said he plans to move forward with a procedural vote to begin debate Wednesday or Thursday, in response to Republican requests for more time to consider the bill.

House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said Tuesday morning that "Republicans simply cannot vote for the bill in good conscience," arguing that it does not do enough to secure the border, and that Biden already has legal authority to address the surge of migrants that he is not using.

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy was forced to remove $3oo million of aid to Ukraine from a larger defense bill in the fall in order to win over a handful of GOP holdouts.

Several House GOP members expressed doubt about impeachment, leaving leaders hours to try to rally support in order to avoid an embarrassing vote planned for Tuesday evening.


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[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

"[D]evolves into"?

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