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I wonder if u/spez ordered this hack so he can back off and save face. Of course I don't know the context but that's the first thing that comes to mind.
this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2023
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Nah, reading this no this hack is personal. They hacked this site months ago and now they're coming in here looking the heroes of the story? No, they were ignored. The hackers got pissed and now they're using this as an opportunity to get back at reddit. So what, they got maybe a terabyte of decompressed data at most, and they want 4 million dollars? This feels like some script kiddies utilizing a bad situation after getting ignored, not a professional op.
I want the API changes reverted as much as any other Reddit refugees here, but I can't stand behind this kind of malfeasant extortion.
Not only is it blatantly obvious they're using the API change rhetoric as a means of irritating Reddit into giving them their hush money, it also avts towards delegitimising all protest efforts made by the Subreddits thus far
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Ransomware operators are scum and should not be trusted, let alone paid.
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Nah you're not going to catch me rooting for a ransomware attacker
>reddit fucks over users
>hackers fuck over users
why do this?
Money lol. If they do have it and reddit negotiates then they'll probably expect to be offered a higher price for dropping the API demand. They are just upping the ante.
lol, fuck reddit, but do they expect us to cheer for them when they're holding user data hostage? They can fuck right off too.
Whether the data is with Reddit or the hackers, what difference does it make lol
Yep, kinda hard to give a fuck. I wonder though if anyone has used Reddit's private message and other features for messages they wouldn't want to be public.
And using an email address in any service, everyone should know by now there's a good chance they leak at some point.
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lol, ok. i mean, even if this is true (which, eh, maybe it is), I'm not really sure it's worth what they're asking for it. if this threat is genuine, and they follow through, it will certainly be publically embarrassing for spez at a really bad time. but there's zero chance he's going to give in to their demands.
i don't expect the data dump would contain anything particularly juicy, or these demands would have been made months ago. it's just that it would be embarrassing for reddit (and spez) if it happened, particularly right now.
If it hurts the IPO, I'm all for it. My data on reddit is worthless anyway...
Reddit has been going for like a billion years, and you only got 80GB - I mean even zipped, that can't even be a fraction of the data surely?
I'd be surprised if the data was just content. Memes and texts aren't particularly valuable.
However, data that can be used for tracking/developing user profiles such as what they're subscribed to, how active they are, and how they all link to one another is especially useful for conpetetitors and marketers. Plus any personal data such as emails and profiles. I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to get a huge amount of data under 80gb if it's just text (think how big a 80gb excel sheet would be)
Depends on what kind of data, if it’s mostly internal documents / dumps of whatever communication systems they use etc, it would not be too large (mostly because of retention policies on that software).
If it is actually the data straight from Reddit’s production databases, then 80GB does sound questionable. But then what kind of data are we talking about? Is it actually valuable?
Anyways, this is big (if true).
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Is it weird that I kind of want both groups to lose out here?
The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy.
Maxim 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less.
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Fuck spez, but this is not the way. Why even ask for money if they don’t expect Reddit to pay? That cheapens their cause.
Their cause is the money. Everything else is marketing.
So they "broke into Reddit" back in February and contacted Reddit in April. After Reddit didn't react they contacted them again a few days ago at this very opportunistic time.
They never specified exactly what kind of data they stole, nor did they prove it by providing samples.
For all we know this story could be entirely made up and they actually have nothing.
But even if they have something, them trying to come across as the good guys in this is so weird to me. No, you're not the good guys. You are criminals.
They may be the bad guys, but they're not necessarily bad guys
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Put up or shut up
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