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That's why when Google revealed the Glasses I thought "that's it, that's the headwear device that will be the future, it's literally just glasses!".
Alas, I should have known back then there was one thing going against that device's survival odds: it was a project from project slayer, Google.
I hope this trend won't last. My smartphone consumption is too high already.
It wouldn’t be bad if it were more of a computer replacement. Than a smart phone replacement. Today, I was extremely cramped with screen space and this headset would have been great! But I’ll just buy a bigger desk and a laptop stand for like 5% the cost.
smartphone consumption
Smartphones Georg, who lives in cave & eats over 10,000 smartphones each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted
If the technology was to become widespread it would have to do better than "silly digital ski goggles" anyway. I wear glasses, I wouldn't mind slightly bulkier glasses if in exchange I can get a heads-up display telling me what the name of that person who's greeting me that I should totally know the name of but have forgotten right now.
I’m the other way on this one. The idea of having an always-on HUD, while convenient, seems far more dystopian than a nifty toy to watch immersive movies on and play interesting games on when I get home. I know it’s an unpopular opinion around here, but I for one am excited to see computing take on different HIDs. The thought of an infinitely large canvas to compute on appeals to me, while an always-with-me wearable does not.
I like having a disproportionately powerful computing device at home. When I’m out, I’ll bring my analogue watch and an outdated smartphone to text people and read articles. When I’m computing, I go all out. When I’m not, I’m not.
No. The future of tech should be about getting more capabilities out of fewer (and/or less intrusive) screens. Would love to see more advances in e-ink displays and open-source, 'ambient' voice-controlled UIs.
oh no. I hate voice controlled tech. it's off for me. I would not use that at all.
I don't see any downside at all if it's layered on top of some other (very capable) keyboard-driven UI that can do all the same things.
there doesn't need to be a keyboard. just good hand gestures which can't be performed by accident, and good face recognition software. if apple headset will have this, I'm gonna bankrupt.
Don't think anything can actually replace the power and expressiveness of keyboards and text interfaces- that's always going to be the bottom layer for a productive setup (i.e., you need to actually be able to write code, write shell scripts etc to control your machine, etc).
Guess what I really want is just some kind of Unix machine that hums along 24/7 in the background, with many different paradigms for interacting with it when you don't have (or want) a standard keyboard and display. Putting a display over my face feels like a giant leap in the wrong direction
yeah, keyboard is crucial when you want to code, 100% agree here.
I got to try messing around with a Hololens a couple of years back. The hand tracking wasn't perfect but it was pretty cool. It read my "typing in the air" gestures to set a WPA2 key very accurately (much to my surprise). The parameters of the demo I was playing around in (picking up and moving virtual packages around in a model city to control drones flying around that part of the convention center) was pretty cool.
I don’t see any downside at all if it’s layered on top of some other (very capable) keyboard-driven UI that can do all the same things.
The downside is that no existing tech company has enough self-control to actually keep these kinds of recordings private.
That's why we need something open-source and self-hosted.
@gzrrt @pineapple Yeah - ideally, any voice control processing or recordings should never leave the device it's used on. At worst, the local network.
It's so annoying that the tech for voice recognition became usable before mobile processing power caught up but after mobile bandwidth was enough to offload the processing to someone else's computer.
Several such solutions already exist. Problem is, only folks like us mess around with it. Non-geeks, not so much.
No. Absolutely not.
if this headset will help you find objects in real life, yeah. I am blind, so this tech, if accessible enough, could revolutionize how I recognize and interact with people.
Headsets already feel outdated. They seem inconvenient, uncomfortable, and take you away from life instead of enhancing it. Whatever happened to google glass? I disliked that for many reasons but at least it wasn’t a headset.
Google happened to it. Right when some of us started doing practical things with it. Still haven't forgiven them for that.
Robert Scoble took a shower in one and the Google Glass image has yet to recover
Oh dear, I had forgotten about this...
Apple users will want whatever apple tell them to want
Headsets, no. They weigh to much and every damn gram counts. Glasses, sure
I love how everybody's shitting on it now, but I bet you that this started a bunch of copycats that'll offer it at 1500 or more. Everyone laughed at "phones without jacks" and now even FairPhone released a model without jacks. FairPhone basically said: yeah, let's go with a trend to add more e-waste and say we're for the planet.
Fwiw I still buy phones based on the headphone jack
I'm a tech hipster and direct audio is flat out, tight, my humans
Although I'm perfectly willing to admit cordless is better for most people's use cases and I do own a pair of wireless headphones for that reason
Same here (even though I own bluetooth headphones). No reason phones can't support both
the fact that it'll have hundreds of copycats doesn't make it less silly
The Apple headset does look a lot more lightweight and comfortable than most of what we have today - but even then, I just don't see it.
Even if they got it down to the weight and bulk of actual ski goggles, that wouldn't actually be comfortable for long sessions compared to sitting at a computer or watching TV (or even using a smart phone)
And ultimately you have to ask what the actual benefit is. The VR/AR industry seems (baffingly) to be moving away from games and towards social/business use cases (the Apple headset baffingly seems to be mosty selling itself as a laptop replacement). Everything we saw them doing with the Apple headset in the demo would be more comfortable and easier to do via more traditional mediums.
And don't even get me started on Meta who wants us to start working and shopping in VR...
VR has amazing potential for games, but it seems like just when we started to realize that potential with HL:A, the industry just gave up on it. Now-a-days, all the new titles are arcade games optimized for the quest, and hardware developers seem hell-bent on selling these headsets for everything except games.
I could see wanting something like what the Google Glass was supposed to be as a "wear everywhere" headset, but even then it'd be a niche thing for tech enthusiasts
I've the Bose Frame sunglasses/headphones, and even those can be uncomfortable after a while.
For all the faults Google glass had, at least they were similar in size to regular glasses. I would only consider these things if they were as non-intrusive as possible, aka not ski goggles
I don't even want to wear clothes half the time never mind a giant computer that's tracking my eyeballs.
Short answer : no.
Long answer : noooooooooooooooo.
No for one simple reason: I have a wife. We like to experience content together (watching movies/TV, playing games). None of which I can do without not one but two of these things. No thanks.
It's funny how obvious this point is and yet it seems to be getting kind of quietly ignored.
Yall remember google glasses? Seems like a decade ago.
There was a hilarious few week period in 2013 where I saw multiple people slam into the handrails and doors on muni busses in SF while glassed out. Also people yelling at them about not consenting to being recorded etc but that was much less amusing. Within a couple weeks you entirely stopped seeing them in public spaces.
I can't imagine walking around in public with something like this Apple headset on, let alone with the insane price tag... which means that people are definitely going to do it.
No, display glasses would have been the right form factor for Apple. But offering some cool sunglasses with monitors would not create another walled garden for them and the temptation to just own everything a user sees is just too great.
I've tried VR (PlayStation) and found the experience interesting but the novelty wore off pretty quick. I can't imagine using it for long than an hour at a time. Like the 'metaverse' and 3DTV the whole thing seems like a gimmick.
People aren't talking about being in VR all the time, they are talking about Augmented Reality. This isn't the metaverse, it's bring the digital experience into our normal reality to enhance every day life.
If they can invent a lightweight vr headset, that doesn't make me feel ill or sweat to high heavens then i'd be 100% onboard with it.
No one talks about how bad it is to have tons of little LEDs in your eyes. My eyes are already messed up, and I can't use VR for more than an hour before I feel like I want to die. So it's a HARD pass from people like me. Talk to me once you put screens in the walls, not on them.
I probably wouldn't use them in any form for what they want to do with them, not a fan of plugging in that hard, but I could wear them for extended periods of time no problem. Can play video games with the big bulky Valve Index for hours on end without a break, I doubt this AR set is much heavier or hotter. Any sort of exercise would probably make it way too steamy to be reliable though.
Would be cool to get some sort of advanced vision system to augment my poor vision though. Start looking like I'm from Star Trek with that sweet visor.
I use a headband to keep my hair backwards and even using something as light as that becomes irritating after prolonged periods of time. I'd have to try it, but I'm leaning towards thinking I'd be super annoying for extensive use.
