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[-] Dmian@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I’m a bit lost… are Hispanic whites latinos too or not?

[-] frogfruit@discuss.online 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you identify as both white and Latino, yes. If you identify as white and Hispanic but not Latino, then no. [In the U.S.]*, Latino is considered a race as well as ethnic identity.

*Edit for clarification

[-] Dmian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I was born in Argentina (part of Latin America). My family is all from Spain. Am I considered a Latino? I mean, I’m from Latin America after all. What does being a “latino” implies? Because as someone from a Latinamerican country, I always thought myself as a “latino”. But apparently I’m a white hispanic?

[-] hoodatninja@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is actually a decent summary that helps with the tendency to conflate race/ethnicity.

To paint with a very broad brush, "white hispanic" is folks with Spanish ancestry and a few other areas, but NOT central/South America (except for Brazil). A lot of it is determined by colonial history (which country controlled which place and when). There are probably a few exceptions or examples I'm leaving out but that's a loose rule of thumb. It gets murky because who is considered "white" is the result of a social construct. Hence why, for instance, Polish/Italian people are now "white" in the US. They didn't used to be considered white.

Racism is stupid.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Racism is stupid.

and the law of the land

[-] frogfruit@discuss.online 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, you're right. It would be valid for you to select Latino regardless of skin color. I'm just referring to how the US surveys are often defined. Latino is under race but there's a separate question asking whether you are Latino/Hispanic.

[-] Putykat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There are all range of colors in Latin America. Same thing than in the USA, however, our white people are decendants of southern Europeans: Spain, Portugal and Italy mostly.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago

Probably not technically Latino, but almost certainly Hispanic

The official definition of Hispanic is something like "almost everyone who considers themselves Hispanic". It's weird, but being raised in Latin America, having a family member from there, or just growing up in a neighborhood with that culture could all qualify you

[-] LexiconDrexicon@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

So why is Texas a red state?

[-] Detonate9736@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

latinos tend to be pretty catholic

[-] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago
[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Plus people who can’t be bothered to vote.

[-] esadatari@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

plus shutting down voting locations in predominantly non-white citizen areas in texas, especially in houston and the areas south of san antonio.

plus shutting down key locations in certain areas of the city throughout every major blue city to make it really inconvenient to vote.

plus understaffing specific locations in certain areas of the city to make it inconvenient to vote

plus a fair number of automatically “accidentally”changing votes on evoting machines in favor of the republicans that, if the person didn’t refuse to confirm and go back and correct choices they made, oops you voted all republican.

plus ken paxton withholding mail in votes because “it would have turned the state blue if the mail in ballots from austin area weren’t blocked.”

[-] eldavi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

voter suppression tactics are disregarded by most and especially in texas; point this out only brands you a malcontent.

[-] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I looked this up because I thought Catholics traditionally leaned heavily democratic. According to wikipedia, that was the case into the 60s. The past few decades they've split fairly evenly between democrats and republicans, so I don't think that alone i's too much of a driving factor.

[-] Drtrillphill@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Your question assumes that many Hispanic people aren't Republican which is unfortunately not true

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

A lot are catholic, which means prolife. It doesn't matter anything else politically due to abortion being a sin.

Source: in-laws are Hispanic 1st gen illegal (now legal)border crossers who vote republican. I love them, but they can't see past the one ticket item.

[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'll never forget the news article about one woman who was married to an illegal immigrant, voted for Trump, and was shocked when her husband was deported.

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Because Latinos don't vote in huge numbers. There is also this misconception that just because someone not white that they would automatically vote Democrat. Latinos (especially older ones) tend to be VERY traditional and VERY religious. Democrats typically do terrible with those groups. Even with all the shit that Republicans do, some 40% of Latinos swing red (on a national level and I am sure TX is similar).

The only people surprised by this are ones who get all their news from sites like this one or Reddit who have been repeated told the lie that the GOP is solely made up of old white men.

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Lots of immigrants from catholic countries that lean conservative. One of the biggest qanon nuts I knew was Hispanic.

[-] Kaleunt17@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you do it like Putin, you could say these parts of the US belong, historically speaking, to Mexico anyway.

[-] yool_ooloo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Countdown to a certain segment of white Americans saying they are the oppressed minority, need their guns to fend off the 'colored majority,' and need food stamps.... (I think this is already happening with some religious groups) (I'm white - but I do not hold these beliefs!)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If only they would vote more...

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Latinos are not in any way a political monolith, and taking them as such is both reductive and a little racist.

Just ask the Cubans in Miami-Dade county.

[-] LexiconDrexicon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Same with us Black people, we're not a monolith either. I know many right-wing black people. 80% of us Black Americans self-identify as Christian for instance, so criticism of Christianity really doesn't sit well at all within black communities

[-] zaph@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately they typically vote against their own interests and go republican. Of all the Mexican friends I've had I can only remember one not being conservative even though she comes from a conservative background.

[-] Infinity187@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's almost like it's a quasi form of Stockholm syndrome.

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