This is something that bothers me. I see EVs as future and a next step in car evolution, but why all of them have to be connected? Why most people don't have problem with it? I'm not talking about Chinese cars, but all of them.

20 years ago if you would say a car could be hacked one would laugh and say that this only happens in sci-fi movies, now this is a reality. And that's not the only threat, there's a huge implication with privacy. Why people are so not caring about it?

Obviously the whole security threat thing is just BS to justify restricting trade. You’re really not allowed to restrict trade under wto rules unless it’s a national security concern. It makes sense that the US would want to protect its industry but, it’s really infuriating that the US, the country that thrust neoliberalism free trade policies down developing countries throats, sometimes by force, now wants to do protectionism. Many developing economies growth was hampered and their economic ability to met their own needs to spiked into the ground by American coercion and sometimes violence. It further goes to show that the powerful countries really just do whatever the fuck they want often at the detriment of weaker nations.

Tesla is also a security risk like all others

It seems like the "cars tracking you" problem is a very real and very serious thing that should obviously be legislated separately of electric vehicles or country of manufacture.

I got a Mazda recently, and I was reading all the ownership paperwork, and the guy asked me what I was looking for. I said "I'm looking for the language about what data Mazda is collecting about me." And the guy laughed and said there's nothing in the paperwork about that. They just do it. You can't shut it off.

Do American next.

Yeah fair I am sure there is almost as much sketchy shit in Chinese electric cars as American ones, I just can’t find the fucks to care compared to the threat of ecological and agricultural collapse from climate change.

Like seriously I know it’s more satisfying and intriguing to talk security, technology, software and geopolitics but really who gives a fuck. Literally none of this even remotely matters next to the existential emergency that is climate change.

So sure, cheap Chinese electric cars lets go who cares honestly, we don’t have the damn time to focus on making this into a Cold War Tom Clancy novel before we run out of shit like clean water to drink.

Let the US lock itself from the world, that should work.

We're in the middle of a technological cold war.

EV's are bad for the American OPEC monopoly

5G, garlic, cars...

I know this may seem like an unusual concept to capitalist America, but having more competitors drives down prices.

Industry competition: a threat

Deteriorating mental condition of leadership: ~~not a threat~~ what was I talking about again?

This pure projection. America spies through everything they sell. So they assume that everyone else is doing the same.

Ah yes, because electric vehicles collect so much more data than your standard vehicles, they essentially are the same thing just different engine. Ever look at the data OnStar collects even apperently without an account? Ever look at the privacy policy the infotainment system has you agree to once or twice a month? it's scary.

how about just pass legislation that a foreign country cannot collect data on a vehicle in the US if we are that scared of it

"We need to reduce carbon emissions!"

"No not like that!"

Haha. It's just silly. I know nothing about the actual story.

Biden Calls Chinese Electric Vehicles a Threat to American Shareholders. FTFY.

Will the solution be public transportation infrastructure so cars aren’t needed?

This is the best summary I could come up with:

President Biden took steps on Thursday toward blocking internet-connected Chinese cars and trucks from entry to the American auto market, including electric vehicles, saying they posed risks to national security because their operating systems could send sensitive information to Beijing.

China has rapidly scaled up its production of electric vehicles in recent years, setting it on a collision course with Mr. Biden’s industrial policy efforts that seek to help American automakers dominate that market at home and abroad.

Administration officials are eyeing other steps to further impede imports of Chinese vehicles, which have already surged through European markets, as a result of low prices driven in part by significantly lower labor costs.

The Treasury Department has already proposed rules meant to limit China’s ability to supply materials for cars and trucks that qualify for a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit included in Mr. Biden’s signature climate bill.

The Commerce Department investigation announced on Thursday grew from a series of conversations that administration officials had with automakers last fall, after the settlement of a United Automobile Workers strike during which Mr. Biden stood with the union and joined a picket line.

Biden aides began to grow concerned about what might happen if the United States did not impose similar restrictions on Chinese software, which administration officials say only a handful of cars in America run on today.

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