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White House Agrees To Ban Pride Flags At US Embassies In Spending Bill Deal (www.forbes.com)

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 123 points 4 months ago

It's also giving 1.8 billion dollars in weapons to Israel. Fuck every single dem who voted for genocide, and the few republicans who didn't vote for it because it was insufficiently genocidal.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

This was included in a funding bill. If that wouldn't pass the government would shut down. You can blame Republicans for those extra things added.

[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the government would shut down

Good. A government that needs to commit genocide to even function shouldn't exist.

Imagine trying to use that as an excuse to fund genocide.

You can blame Republicans

Biden has been bypassing congress to send "israel" weapons faster.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Then the government should've fucking shut down. Not even close to an excuse for voting to fund genocide and I'm utterly baffled as to how you could possibly make such an argument.

[-] octobob@lemmy.ml 39 points 4 months ago

I've been hearing this excuse for like a decade now.

Shutting down the government to refuse weapon sales to Israel would be a good thing, goddammit. I'd feel that maybe there's a shred of humanity left in those ghouls if they had.

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[-] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

People are missing the forest for the trees but you are right.

If Republicans force this through on every bill then at some point it would have to pass. You can't just shut down the US government indefinitely in the real world.

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[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 103 points 4 months ago

Important note for those who dont want to read the actual article: the ban is essentially saying only some flags can be bought with federal funds and then hung up officially, and the pride flag isn't one of them. It also doesn't prohibit personal displays, so while they can't be on flag poles or bought with federal funds, they can still be displayed. Interestingly, the bill also bans the confederate flag. It's still just bigotry being forced by the GOP but there's always more context than a headline can provide.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago

And the State Department can do whatever it wants. Why would Congress have oversight of a routine maintenance issue for the Executive Branch? They can fly all the pride flags they want and no one can stop them.

The House's budget power only exists until the item is purchased. It's actually not very strong. Literally how are they going to enforce this? The Justice Department will be defending the State Department. The House will have... who?

[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

The House will have… who?

Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch.....

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[-] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 4 months ago

Oh nooo scawwy wainbow

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Maybe the US's adversaries could learn from this and go the opposite way to improve LGBT rights instead. Would decrease western govs' ability to pinkwash imperialism, spread atrocity propaganda etc.

So far, the only governments I can think of that seem to have realized this and vastly improved LGBT rights accordingly have been the GDR (which would've likely spread to the rest of the socialist states) and Cuba.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

we can hope and fucking pray

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

Maybe the US’s adversaries could learn from this and go the opposite way to improve LGBT rights instead

Nah: right wing extremists are getting more and more power everywhere so looks like it's worse LGBT+ rights for everyone.

The future ain't looking too bright.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

China also appears to be improving on this in real time, though official policy still lags behind e.g. Cuba.

[-] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 30 points 4 months ago

The US is always so disrespectful flying their flag higher than others

I thought it was common knowledge that to fly two flags you need two poles

[-] MrStankov@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I think it stems from our domestic flag rules which have state and local flags flying below the US flag, even if on different poles. The US flag must always be the highest.

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

I was gonna say that Texas' flag is the only one "allowed" to be at the same height as the U.S. flag, but apparently I've been taught a big ol' lie.

In fact it looks like we're both wrong, according to Snopes.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 5 points 4 months ago

In some cases, the acceptable way to display the flag is to burn it. Is day now is such a time.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago

Hopefully they get rid of the POW/MIA Flags too.

[-] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

The bill explicitly states those are flags that can be kept up.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

lol, of course it does. Ghouls.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don’t mean for this to come off as ignorant or accusatory; I’m curious: how come you feel that way about POW/MIA flags?

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

What a waste of time. Sometimes I'm ashamed to even admit that I'm American.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Nationalists ruin nations

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 months ago

Another two steps back.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Out of curiosity, where do you draw the line for non-government related symbols to be shown? What types of non-government related symbols should be allowed, and which ones shouldn't?

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Perhaps each symbol could be evaluated individually based on what it is meant to represent? I don't know why that's such a difficult thing to imagine.

I've seen those black "POW/MIA" flags next to US flags all of the time and I've never once seen a single ammosexual conservative freak complain about it, despite their cult of personality centering around someone who literally belittled prisoners of war for being caught.

I've never heard of anyone complaining about that. I see the "pride" flag to be as offensive as the black POW/MIA flag.

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Time to start raising the Wrath flags.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I read that as "Welsh flags" at first and thought "a little unorthodox, but ok.. Let's have some dragons up in this bitch!"

[-] JWBananas@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I read it as "Wraith Flags" and wondered how Colonel John Sheppard has been doing.

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

It really makes you feel like harm is being reduced

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Should note this is not permanent. It's only for the extent of the spending bill, which is until October, and can be easily removed from the spending bills after the election, when hopefully we have a more blue congress that won't need to make these shitty concession just to fund the damn government.