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Yeah, this describes my experience so far. I really want to like it here, but so far it's been an effort.

I am using Mastadon more, hopefully with time we see a similar level of polish. However, even there it don't see a dent in Twitter.

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[–] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I like this place. A lot. Yes, everything is not super polished. Yes, I have to be more active to find the content I want. Yes, there's a lot less content than on reddit. But the people here feel like real people, not people and bots who push agendas.

And I've always been somebody who contributes, so I'm here to help build the place I want.

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

This right here

[–] kriss0706@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i feel that, i have lerked on reddit for so many years. But i am ready to make a change, and do my best to make these platforms the new home of the internet.

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[–] dan96kid@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

As a new kbin user from Reddit, it's... jank to say the least. My biggest gripe is the new comment box being at the BOTTOM of the page.

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I prefer it that way, because I'm like forced to read what other people commented previously.

[–] printerjammed@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Wow you're right. I thought i just wasnt allowed to comment on stuff

[–] gnp@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the idea is to promote reading comments before writing.

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[–] BiaThemis@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My scroll wheel hated me until I figured out I could just hold the space bar for a sec to jump to the bottom lol. I would imagine it needs to be changed sooner than later before the number of comments in the threats increases.

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[–] Xathonn@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you're on desktop you can use the Kbin enhancement userscript which moves it to the top, also shows peoples tags like @lemmy.world

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[–] Futurespeed@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On the plus side this place feels smaller so instead of just lurking all the time it feels meaningful to participate.

[–] 999@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I think this is really spot on. I wasn't looking for a "reddit alternative" that "kinda sucks" because it's not reddit. I was looking for an actual "reddit alternative," not a reddit clone. And yes, I've just been lurking up until now, but so far this seems so much more sane and reasonable. For the time being, at least. Until someone finds a way to turn it into a reddit alternative.

[–] sixfold 1 points 2 years ago

It's super buggy still, I hope the devs continue making lemmy work better. There are still issues with posts not being federated between instances. I'm having lots of issues seeing posts and comments on other instances in a consistent way. It always depends from which instance I'm looking from. I hope these and other issues are going to actually be fixed.

[–] Eavolution@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I actually like kbin more than I did reddit. Reddit has a huge advantage though, over a decade of content. What I like about kbin though is it feels smaller, I see familiar names and interaction feels like I'm talking to a person not a thing.

[–] Haan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

With the popularity of Reddit and how simple (in theory) of a concept it is, it blows my mind that there is not an alternative. Kbin and Lemmy are okay, but they are pretty big compromise so far.

[–] raydenuni 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's been little demand. Give it some time. Enjoy being in in the ground floor, or wait until it's a little more mature. The more use and demand the more we're going to see improvements and alternative mobile apps and such.

[–] CanadaPlus 0 points 2 years ago

I fully expect it's going to get better. None of the issues mentioned, from a quick skim, are insurmountable except figuring out where to sign up.

[–] JakeBacon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

I can forgive the issues with Kbin and Lemmy because Reddit has had more time and resources to build the platform. My hope is that with the new attention and the open source nature that Lemmy will show consistent improvement to where I don't feel like I'm compromising.

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[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is better than Mastodon by far. At least that's been my experience. Much easier to find communities here.

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[–] Alexmitter@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Kbin is much more polished already. While lemmy is more or less a clone of old reddit, kbin is more like modern reddit just without the suck. Also, both are compatible.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

For a server that Ernest put together as a proof of concept, I was surprised at how polished kbin felt when I first joined.

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[–] Naich@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

A Reddit alternative is going to end up like Reddit. Kbin/Lemmy are not like Reddit, and that's a good thing.

[–] Singletona@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's going to take time to spin back up the reddit communities. Also, some behavior adjustments will need to be made (though I do miss having notifications I can instantly click to get to the replies. I suspect that's in the works.)

[–] Ashyr@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Kbin has the notification feature, though it’s been a bit buggy from time to time.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 0 points 2 years ago

Just gotta give it some time. The Reddit apps have years of development behind them; the Lemmy apps weren't really seeing wide use until the last few weeks. There's now a lot of pressure for better alternatives, and a few other options are already in development (for iOS, at least - I assume for Android, too). Rome wasn't built in a day.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Needs to fix the "hot" sorting. Then I'll actually be able to evaluate.

[–] Varyag@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I would love a sorting type that just gives a whole new page of posts when I hit F5. For now, I guess I can sort by New.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But unless something changes dramatically, it’ll suffer the same fate as Mastodon or Bluesky.

I have no idea what's going on with Bluesky, but mastodon is... fine? It's not twitter and never will be.

This doesn't mean Lemmy doesn't need a bit of work, though, I don't think anyone would deny that. I don't think they've had quite the pressure to triage issues like they do now, so a decent list of priorities is probably emerging.

I'm tempted to try to help, but I'm (generously) a rust novice. I worry I'll waste their time with bad PRs.

[–] Kara@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bluesky is in beta, it isn't even out yet. But somehow it has already suffered a fate?

New things like Mastodon, Bluesky, and Kbin don't have to kill the current things in order to be successful. We don't have to rule the world, we don't have to be perfect on day 1.

[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago

Also, both Barbie and Oppenheimer have been box office flops!

[–] Laille@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the biggest thing probably tempering Bluesky at the moment is a queue that is 3+ months at a time to actually get in. It's creeping close to ~6 on my end and still nothing.

I still intend on swapping, but most people are going to lose interest in that period of time and just stay on Twitter.

[–] InisSieferI@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Or whatever the Meta Twitter replacement ends up being.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, Mastodon's going pretty strong. I don't really get what the message here is supposed to be.

"I, a tech writer, am not using it"?

[–] Singletona@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

'I'm not using it nor are the people I surround myself with therefore it is a failure.'

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[–] UnmeltedByRain@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are you using the jerboa app? I find it to be very close to the old experience.

[–] InisSieferI@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

It can still be a little buggy at times, but I've found to be the closest to my RIF experience so far.

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[–] sisyphean@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Lemmy isn’t currently usable by “normies” but we, the weird ones are already here, building great communities, fixing bugs, developing features. Give it 6 months, and Lemmy and kbin will be ready for prime time. The world will watch it rise like a giant middle finger shown to /u/spez.

[–] zalack@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

PSA for non-developers: "six-months" in the software world is slang for "optimistically, one year".

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[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Personally I don't need it to be "polished", and too much polish would smack of corporate excess to me. I want lively but friendly discussions on a variety of topics that interest me. And it's fun to watch something grow from early(ish) stages into a more complete package. I hope this will be a good social media home for me.

ETA I upvoted you for good topic and discussion, rather than downvoting in disagreement.

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[–] sensibilidades@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thing is, people looking for a Reddit replacement are going to be in some way disappointed, since part of the idea of developing a new system is to avoid the things that made Reddit turn terrible. The sad truth it Reddit is probably too big for its users to just leave, but maybe they will financially just crash since their efforts to become profitable aren't looking all that effective.

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[–] mmmplak@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Majority of the people here are super helpful, much friendlier, and supportive even with all the flaws that we are experiencing. Building a community takes effort. Everyone’s effort is focused here so that we can have the place that we want it to be - a place better than reddit.

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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I ended up switching to Kbin and like it a lot more in regards to how the main page provides threads. It still has it's issues, but they're for the most part outside of the main loop.

I'm somewhat surprised at how much the dynamic page load really messed with my ability to navigate Lemmy. Basically if I went away for any given time it would go from top threads for the day to random junk that had no activity. It really needs a way to turn that off.

[–] Calcharger@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

His issues are that he misses the cultivated nature of Reddit. Reddit didn't start out cultivated, and took time and effort by volunteers to figure out it's identity. The same thing will happen with the fediverse. It will get cleaned up and streamlined as people put in effort. People look at a lump of carbon and say it's worthless, but with time it becomes a diamond.

Some people only see the value of something in it's present form and miss out on potential. The fediverse has a lot of potential so long as it is active. It's open nature will bring in freelance development help and it could very well become BETTER than what reddit was. Keep the faith

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[–] DeepChill@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

“Currently” is the key word here. I’m using the TestFlight beta of Mlem and it’s coming along quite quickly. I haven’t been back to Reddit since the day before the blackout. Admittedly I’m spending a ton of time just searching for the subs that migrated over to communities here.

[–] ArtieShaw@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I created an account about 24 hours ago and this is actually better than I expected. Of course, I wasn't expecting a complete and polished interface from something so new, but I had read plenty of horror stories about how lemmy/kbin signups were impossibly complex.

I like it. It's already pretty intuitive and I like that it's not a 1:1 Reddit clone. I can easily imagine this expanding and growing into something really interesting

Also, I got the username I wanted.

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