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[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's an unhealthy take and seems to imply a misaligned internal compass. It was a sincere question, and I meant no offense in the slightest. Do you have someone there IRL to chat with on these and related notions?

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Uh, I didn't post this I just didn't understand your comment and I seriously still don't. Here is a the titular quote from the article:

Today, I decided to take the claim that the word “narcissist” is a Greek mythology reference seriously. And I find that if that’s the case, then the word’s original use is to insult someone as vain for not dating anybody. To say that if you’re aromantic or asexual, you deserve to die. It would seem that if the word isn’t an ableist slur, then it must instead be a queerphobic slur. Perhaps we asexuals could reclaim the slur as an ironic self-descriptor. Perhaps I could say, “Yes, I’m a narcissist. My queerness is so powerful it enrages the very gods.” But if the word is to be used as an insult, in reference to Narcissus’ refusal to be in a relationship, then it is a slur. Narcissus wasn’t an abuser, he was queer.

Why is it immoral? I don't understand. Your comment comes across as like, at best, condescending concern-trolling.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Terribly sorry, I mistook you for OP. 🤗

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why did this article spark "are you okay"? I still don't understand.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article didn't, in fact. On mobile, only the title came up and the lack of thumbnail made my morning brain read it as a non-sequitur that (as mentioned earlier) hinted at a possible cry for help. My concern was both genuine and heartfelt, and I'm sorry that your experience has taught you to assume the negative, but this isn't that other place. 🐙

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes sense - having read the article your comment just made absolutely no sense to me! And I was legitimately trying to figure out what I was missing.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No worries, be well! 🦇

[–] Grail@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I recommend reading the article, I'm very proud of it.

I wrote this article because I was inspired by something Ian Danskin recently said. See, he used the word n***c***stic as an insult in a recent video. I spoke to him about it, and he agreed to remove it as it's ableist, and left a comment on the video discussing the issue. I'm very grateful that Ian cares about disability issues. But he also said he's disappointed that psychologists named a mental disorder after the Greek myth, and that got Me thinking. Is the original Greek myth worth making cultural reference to, if the word were not an ableist slur? So naturally, I analysed the myth, and discovered that it's queerphobic, heteropatriarchal, and vaguely ephebophilic. Turns out there's no good reason at all to use the word as an insult, even if you're referencing Greek mythology!

I find that fact kind of beautiful, because it defangs excuses used by ableists that they were referring to Greek mythology all along. If they really were, well their words suck just as bad. So they can't hide behind such excuses anymore.

Anyway now I stan Narcissus as an aroace king 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 🖤🤍💜

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that you're calling out narcissism as ableist. Too often I see commentary/videos etc talking about narcissists as id they are basically just Pure Evil ... which is just wild to me because even if they were, they were born that way and so it's a matter of accepting someone for how they were born rather than demonizing someone for having a different suite of chemicals in their brain.

[–] Grail@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, it gets worse. While NPD has a genetic component, like all personality disorders it seems to be triggered by early childhood trauma. It would seem that if you get abused by your parents badly enough to get a personality disorder, genetics determine whether you get NPD or something else like BPD. The hatred of people with NPD is victim blaming. It's saying you're evil cause your parents abused you. Here are My other articles about NPD:

https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/anarcho-narcissism-b647c8062173

https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/why-reactionaries-hate-pride-and-narcissists-938d39261f13

[–] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much so, that the Greek gods had a policy of sentencing aroace people to death.

Citation needed

[–] Grail@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Give some specific examples

Alternatively, that could be a new article idea and then you could link to that as your source.

[–] Grail@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Book III, Fable VII.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I get called narcissistic a lot for standing up for my core values, because they assume their abuse tactics bouncing off me means I'm full of myself, when really i'm just on to their shit because they're all the exact fucking same and once you've dealt with one you've dealt with them all.