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[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

This is the Western version of the salami slice method. A bit more weapons. Russia blathers about retribution and consequences, maybe another salvo and that's it. Give longer range weapons and check reaction from Russia. Allow targeting Russia but limited. Now countries are slowly talking about training in Ukraine and boots on the ground and getting the classic consequences speech from Russia.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago
[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 6 points 2 months ago

Today they have something like 7 minutes to decide whether to launch a retaliatory strike if missiles are en route if recall correctly, 12 hours seems like a luxury.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I think the 12 hours are in reference to a conventional invasion. In case of a nuclear attack the decision might not even be made by someone high-up on account of them being encased in glass but by the crew of the nuclear subs, based on a letter the higher-ups left for that circumstance.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago
[-] brianorca@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Ukraine doesn't want to target Moscow. They are not like Russia, they go after actual military targets, not civilians. They have been using their homebuilt drones for long enough inside Russia to show their priorities.

[-] MelastSB@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

The Kremlin is in Moscow. Is it not a military target?

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It has a high symbolic value but it’s not very valuable as a military target. Better to wipe out a bunch of fuel trucks and tanks and soldiers than a handful of bureaucrats in a stationary palace.

[-] kakito69@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Seeing it burn would send a message of much higher value

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

The main benefit it would provide would be a morale boost. It wouldn’t bring Ukraine any closer to removing the Russian occupiers or slowing their attacks.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Flooding the one specific bunker on the other hand... Not an easy task, but I feel that's how it would end.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Seems like a military target to me.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't meet the restrictions described.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 18 points 2 months ago

Sorry, these new US weapons take some getting used to. We'll definitely get it right next time. Promise

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 2 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


President Joe Biden has given permission to Ukraine to strike inside Russian territory with American munitions, though he has restricted their use so Kyiv can only hit targets over the border close to Kharkiv after Russia made significant advances around the city in the northeastern part of the country close to the Russian border, two US officials told CNN.

Russian forces, ammunitions depots and logistical hubs can now be targeted with US-provided artillery and rockets across the border from Kharkiv in western Russia.

The administration is also standing firm in not allowing Ukraine to use the most formidable munition it has been given to fire into Russia: the long-range missiles known as ATACMS that can hit targets 200 miles, or 300 kilometers, away.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken publicly signaled a willingness to change the administration’s tact this week when he noted that the US could “adapt and adjust” its position.

“So how do we explain to the Ukrainians that we’re going to have to protect these towns and basically everything we’re seeing around Kharkiv at the moment, if we tell them you are not allowed to hit the point from which the missiles are fired?”

Germany’s Scholz echoed Macron’s comments and said that Ukraine was allowed to defend itself as long as it respected the conditions given by the countries that supplied the weapons - including the United States - and international law.


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[-] xploit@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[-] HaywardT 4 points 2 months ago

Seems like their homemade ones were working pretty well at a fraction of the cost.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social -2 points 2 months ago

must be getting pretty good at making them if the US is starting to roll back restrictions.

or maybe that limited use is only for civilian minorities.

[-] SickofReddit@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I see this as Biden calling Putin's Bluff. And I predict Putin will double down and use a battlefield nuke in Ukraine putting the ball back in Biden's Court seeing if he'll call that bluff.

I don't think Putin is concerned with Russia past his death.

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