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[-] verstra@programming.dev 155 points 5 months ago

What i don't understand is how fuel efficiency does not seem to be a concern of an average buyer? It is a large factor for me, and I'm proud to have highly efficient car for its class. Are those large trucks somehow more efficient than older, smaller models? Or are average buyers just not concerned with efficiency?

Well not everyone has seen the light of factorio, so i might be over-fixating on efficiency.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 119 points 5 months ago

Oh, they don't care. Didn't you know the price of gas is always the fault of the opposing parties last or current elected president??? That's the AMERICAN way! Blame everybody else, and never accept the consequences for your own actions.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 110 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah all the people bitching about gas prices are getting 8-12 mpg in these things, filling a 25 gallon tank once a week. A lot of these folks aren’t exactly rich either and the trucks are expensive. They’re paying a mortgage payment in monthly fuel, insurance, and loan expenses on these things.

If they could keep their egos in check, they’d save a lot of money.

[-] KaRunChiy@kbin.run 48 points 5 months ago

Or the fuckers rolling coal in lifted diesel pickup trucks. Like if you drive in that trash your opinion on gas prices is null

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 31 points 5 months ago

For people in modern countries - that's about 28 litres per 100km that these selfish, thoughtless fuckers are going through. Cunts

My wee car uses about 5.5 for reference

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[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

The diesel HD trucks can average nearly 20mpg, and the diesel half tons can get almost 30. The gas trucks will get 10-17mpg with good highway tires. Off road tires bring it down to 8-15.

I’m completely in agreement that the people bitching about fuel prices are often the ones driving something like this. My truck is an HD gasser and I pay 4.50 a gallon right now. Sure it sucks, but I have a need for a truck. Other guys just drive them to an office job where a smaller fun car could easily get the job done. In a surprising twist though of just efficiency and aero dynamics my twin turbo V8 sports sedan will pull almost 28mpg on the freeway. Both are not hybrid.

I have definitely said though that I wish there was a hybrid gas HD truck. It makes perfect sense. If I need to run a welder or other high power usage tool I would love to have that capability, while still being able to tow 17k pounds no problem and carry 6 people comfortably. They have already proven it works with the F150 power boost, and that gets almost 28mpg freeway.

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[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 89 points 5 months ago

Gods I’d love A small truck like that if they made them, I know this is fuck cars and I agree with the sentiment, but I’d much rather these be everywhere than the monstrosities on the road today

[-] FleetingTit@feddit.de 36 points 5 months ago
[-] snooggums@midwest.social 38 points 5 months ago

We've met, and it goes too far in the tiny direction and can't drive on highways. It's like suggesting a moped to someone who wants a smaller street bike.

[-] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Aren't those illigal to drive in most of the US? Besides that, they also cap at like 60mph, right? That really limits thier usefulness in a lot of the US, these are mostly good for cities, right?

Don't get me wrong I love kei trucks, but I think having small regular pickups would help a ton too.

[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

They're illegal for road use in a lot of states, yes, but not private use. So in most states, if you need something for around your property, you're still allowed to buy one. Some states will let you register them for road use though.

The bigger issues are 1. To be imported, they have to be at least 25 years old, so the current ones are from the late 90s. Thus, they have the tech to go with it, limiting their speed.

And 2. They're built and designed for Japanese roads and regulations, not American ones. Speed limits are different there, and as you said, they're better for city use, I'd say non-highway use.

They're legal in my state, and I want one when I can afford one, but I'm also less than a mile from a major home improvement store, and the other two stores I would need to visit are within 20 minutes driving by backroads. But I'm a fringe case, but I'd say for most people who live reasonably close to a Lowes or whatever and are only going to use it for weekend projects would be perfect candidates for a kei truck.

Beyond that, yeah, they're limited :/

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 78 points 5 months ago

Giant land yacht with the LED permanent highbeams tilted up to blind oncoming traffic.

[-] 33550336@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago

I would not say that we can completely get rid of cars, or that all cars are evil, but such absurdly big, extremely inefficient trucks with negligible visibility just should be taxed to shit.

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago

At the very least you should need a special license to operate them. They're classed differently to avoid safety and emissions regulations imposed on regular cars, so its perfectly reasonable that there should be different requirements to purchase them and get behind the wheel.

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[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Not even taxed. Outright banned. What happened to governments regulating and revising car safety standards? They can even collect all these back and offer change into more environment and traffic friendly ones, like they were doing 10 years ago.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 47 points 5 months ago

The guy that drives the land yacht once brought home a couple of two by fours in it from Home Depot, so he feels justified in owning it too. "Sometimes there's just mo substitute for a good truck." When his ac cannot handle the heat, he still won't experience any introspection.

[-] legion02@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

The beds are the same size too. It's not even a better truck than the old one.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

But it's legal to manufacture today, unlike the old one. CAFE rules changed in 2012 to be based on footprint instead of vehicle class, so they essentially outlawed small trucks and gave auto manufacturers an easy way out of efficiency regulations by just making cars bigger every refresh cycle.

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[-] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Whenever I see some jackass driving these I comment to them how nice and clean it is. Usually they don't get it but sometimes I go a step further and say "wow you must really never do any work with this work truck!" Fucking pussies

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[-] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

I remember reading a study done in the late 1990s (I'm pretty sure it was ford) that looked at who was most likely to buy a pickup truck so they could market them better, and they found the people who buy pickup trucks fall into 2 categories, one, a blue collar boss buying it for his employees, or two, an insecure man in his 30s-50s trying to compensate

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

a blue collar boss buying it for his employees

I assume this means for his business, to be used by employees? I can't imagine a boss buying his employees a truck.

[-] exanime@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

bUt ThEy ArE oNlY sElLiNg ThOsE bEcAuSe ThAt Is WhAt We DeMaNd

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago

I have one of those 2 seater pickups from 2010. Best vehicle ever, 7-8L/100km and the same size box as the whale behind it.

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[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 months ago

Now, TBH the truck in the back can carry a much heavier and/or physically larger load. Even though the beds are the same length, it’s bed is slightly deeper and likely a good foot or two wider. But how many truck owners transport such loads on the regular? In fact, how many truck owners have anything other than Pavement Princesses?

The truck in the front is more than enough truck for most “truck owners”, they just choose the back option for it’s utility as a penis extender.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Canyonero! whip crack

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

What's really interesting is that the bed size on both of those trucks appears to be the same.

For myself, when I'm looking at pickup trucks--which I sometimes do, although I am unlikely to buy one any time soon--I'm looking at the ability to carry full sheets of plywood.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 months ago

Can we get AI to make a version with increasing recursion into city-sized monster trucks?

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Making absolutely positively sure, that if you run a guy over, they can't sue you, because they're dead.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago

You see a daddy truck and baby truck just out minding their own business and decide you want them to die?! What is wrong with you?

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[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago

Holy shit that was scary. I clicked the link without really looking and all of a sudden I was presented with a "promoted post" and I thought Lemmy had enshitified overnight.

Thank fuck it was just reddit being reddit and me being unobservant.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 months ago

I thought Lemmy had enshitified overnight.

Even if you saw a "promoted post",

  1. If your app did it, other apps wouldn't have it
  2. If your instance did it, all the other instances wouldn't have it
  3. If the codebase added it, there would be a fork overnight

The power is in the people's hands on this one 🙏. Lemmy devs and admins know the best way to grow their site is to do what the users want

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[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

The front truck is wonderful. Put a small lift on it and you can literally go anywhere in north America

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 5 months ago

I don’t know about y’all, but I just cannot get over that driver in the larger truck in the back and how strong, virile, intelligent, secure, and selfless they obviously are.

[-] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 months ago

I know that truck

I ain’t no stranger

I know that truck

It’s a Ford fuckin Ranger

[-] Betty_Boopie@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Sir this is a picture of a toyota tacoma and a ford f250

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

I saw someone in a Dodge Ram yesterday when I was out of a bike ride. Frigging huge it was. This is in rural England where the roads are really not designed for these sorts of vehicles. I'd imagine that it wouldn't actually fit down some of the narrow country roads because it was so big.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Just an FYI that you can buy used kei trucks from dealerships in the U.S. and they are pretty cheap.

https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available

I believe they aren't legal in all states though

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