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“In my view, a ceasefire that involves Ukraine’s capitulation is one that we as Germany must never support,” Scholz replied

The German chancellor argued that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s truce terms amounted to Ukraine’s surrender, calling Moscow “cynical” and not interested in ending the conflict.

“Putin only talks about peace negotiations in order to continue the war. We will not allow this,” Scholz said.

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[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 month ago

Wow, Germany. Just asking for Russia to march across Europe and save humanity from fascism again, aren't you?

[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 month ago

Germany is being run by fucking lunatics

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

God damn, they just LOVE them the fuck out of some nazis over there

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“Putin only talks about peace negotiations in order to continue the war. We will not allow this,” Scholz said.

This makes no sense at all.

Besides, what even is it of any business of his to decide what he will "allow" and what he won't? I thought it wasn't a proxy war?

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Thats actually great news because if Scholz vows to "never" do something it's only a couple weeks away!

Remember all the weapons he would "never" send to Ukraine? And how after a visit from the US diplomat he would then move the target to something else he would "never" send?

And so much stuff he would never do but those dastardly liberals are tough negotiators, guess we have no choice...

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

True, it's like Merkel expressing her trust in someone. It meant that person was done politically.

[-] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The German chancellor argued that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s truce terms amounted to Ukraine’s surrender

Russia is currently winning in this conflict, seems like they're in the position to present peace terms that are asking for Ukraine to surrender lmfao

What reality is this statement coming from.

[-] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

I guess Ukraine isn't part of NATO, and they aren't allowed to decide on their own. So they also aren't a sovereign nation either.... So are they a western neo colony then?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Given the current circumstances, it appears unlikely that Russia will agree to a ceasefire either. The most likely outcome is Russia emerging victorious and dictating terms. Why would they want to pause and allow the west to regroup. Western nations seem to lack a coherent strategy or unified stance on the matter. While they say that the possibility of Russian victory is unacceptable, their inability to prevent it puts the west in a situation of diminishing bargaining power.

It appears that people within Western mainstream are struggling to come to terms with the reality that their desired victory over Russia cannot be achieved. The West refuses to engage in constructive negotiations, instead insisting on dictating terms to Russia while attempting to maintain a position of superiority. This is unrealistic due to their lack of ability to defeat Russia militarily.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Are they going to force the Ukrainians to fight?

[-] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And you won't last much longer removed

[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago
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