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The games and their results

Hades 2 - Result: No data loss.

Still Wakes The Deep - Result: Absolutely fuckaw.

Dread Delusion - Result: Getting very bored of entering my Windows password.

Cyberpunk 2077 - Result: Regret starting this pointless experiment.

Alien: Isolation - Result: Just glad this is over, to be honest.

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[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 112 points 1 month ago

Bro was doing a graceful windows power off by hitting his front power switch. Not cutting it via the PSU switch.

Results invalid, needs doing over.

[-] CandyPants@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

He needs to do some finger stretches..... cause it looks like he needs to log back in 5 more times.

[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

In his defense the article does say he attempted numerous times for each game. Whether or not he did only he knows, but it does get very mind numbing even doing something 5 or 6 times and you simply have to wait during all the loading time.

Completely agreed though, what the hell kind of experiment is this haha. Afaik Windows has a very graceful power off cycle, so graceful that I've had my power button fail to turn my pc off for God knows why.

Would love to see just how quick (or slow) you have to be with a hard power off.

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

Depending on what kind of hard drive you're saving to, and your write cache settings, your mileage may vary.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Yeah, solid state drives are going to be effectively immune to anything bad happening from powering off. But if you have a hard drive and just happen to get unlucky with the timing - it's really, really hard to do - then your drive is gonna be in rough shape.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, solid state drives are going to be effectively immune to anything bad happening from powering off.

If you happen to turn off your computer at the exact moment a game is in the middle of writing a save file to disk, the write will be incomplete and having an SSD won't make those unwritten bits appear on the disk.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Yes, but the writes are so much faster, and the window so much shorter, that for something as small as a save file (assuming you're not playing a Bethesda game, anyway), it would be very unlikely to hit that critical window.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Assuming your save file isn't very large or that you don't get unlucky, you're immune to anything bad happening" doesn't quite have the same ring to it as "you're effectively immune to anything bad happening" does

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I would imagine it also creates a temporary file to replace the file, so if the pc crashes it reverts to the temp file. Would be silly to not have a safety net.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If the computer is powered off when in the middle of writing a game's current state to disk, that write is going to be incomplete and the state lost.

Sure, your save slot may not get corrupted and you'll probably still be able to load whatever was in it before, but no amount of temporary files is going to help you recover data that was never written to disk in the first place

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Which isn’t an issue in most games since they usually have an auto save that triggers every 3 seconds. It would only be a factor in games where you can only manually save. And people know to save those VERY frequently for various reasons already.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 1 month ago

Which isn’t an issue in most games since they usually have an auto save that triggers every 3 seconds.

Ah well if we're going to just make shit up to win an argument, I'll have you know that my uncle works for Nintendo and he said that's not true.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You'll have some garbage data, sure, but it won't fuck up your drive - that's the difference. A hard disk can fail in so many different ways in comparison, and that's what the warning is actually for - "unrecoverable" problems with the drive. With a SSD, the worst that happens is you lose your last write. It's not going to have allocation issues, and isn't at risk of any physical damage.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 0 points 1 month ago

Oh yes absolutely, spinny disks can be more temperamental if they lose power, although it's not super duper common especially nowadays; I've been lucky, I think I've never had any of mine get borked like that over the past >30y.

But yeah in comparison incomplete writes on SSD are pretty mild as far as potential problems go, at least on sane file systems

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"effectively immune" ... rofl! ... no. Just ... No.

Even if it were true about individual writes, many, many things take multiple IO operations to actually be complete.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

I like what someone in the comments of the blog post said, and how it was more of a psychological safety net

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago

You could use it to duplicate pokemon back in the 2000s.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

Or corrupt your friend's save. Ask me how I know.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Saving don't turn off the pow

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Who dares downvote someone who knows the timing?

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

And items, by letting the Pokémon hold one

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 month ago

I enjoy how silly the whole post is.

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 9 points 1 month ago

Try it with Dwarf Fortress which takes a whole ass minute to save!

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