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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Please god dont give them more conspiracies. Someone is going to believe it was actually Biden firing and that if he stops showing “cognitive decline” it’s because the secret service murdered him today in Butler, PA and he was replaced with a double. I know that sounds insane but I guarantee you’ll be able to find a YouTube rant about it a year from now

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unfortunately it's already started. While democrats have issued statements decrying political violence, republicans like this congressman are already baselessly asserting that Biden ordered this and trying to stoke more violence and inflame the situation further:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republican-mike-collins-accuses-biden-ordering-trump-shooting-1235059900/

The violence only benefits the fascists though, no matter who it's against.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

“It’s an official act, Jack. And I’ll fucking do it again.”

t. Dark Brandon

[-] 242@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 month ago

Noooo, the Democrats are supposed to be too decent to do a coup and assassinate pedofiles! We only expected the felon trump to take advantage of this ruling!

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago
[-] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

He doesn’t have the stones.

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

What is the quote referencing? What was originally said?

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The recent supreme Court decision that decided that all official presidential acts are immune from persecution irregardless of intent. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

More specifically, use of any constitutional power listed in article 2 is automatically an official act with presumptive immunity. So ordering the military to assassinate a political rival? Immune from criminal prosecution, cannot even be mentioned in a courtroom or used as evidence, per the conservative (fascist) justices on the supreme court. Other powers in there that are automatically always official with presumptive immunity include removing or hiring anyone in the executive branch (including the department of justice), the pardon power, and the disturbingly vague "take care the laws be faithfully executed" power that caused even Barret to take pause from the broad immunity they were granting the president (she wrote a concurrence that even she had an issue with how broadly this could be interpreted).

The president using powers not described in article 2 they barely even tried to define, so who knows. The only example they gave was talking to justice department officials was an official act. So talking to the justice department to help with a coup attempt? Immune. And to rub salt in the wound, the conversations cannot even be used as evidence in court.

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago
this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2024
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