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Seven people including a 23-day-old girl were killed in Russian shelling of Ukraine’s southern Kherson region on Sunday, the country’s internal affairs ministry has said.

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[–] Declared0978@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Questy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While true, remember that every war crime is committed by some Russian in the field. Fuck Russians.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's all meet in the middle: Fuck the Kremlin.

The average Russian is brainwashed and ground into the mud for basically no reason, they don't know any better.

Attacking every single Russian just creates a bigger division and ultimately we all have to live on this planet together.

[–] Questy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What about haggling it down to every Russian in military service or currently participating in the industrial or logistical services that support the genocide effort against Ukraine? I understand the difficulties of widely assigning blame to a population, it clashes very heavily with my beliefs regarding a fair and open society. I personally worry that the price of our distaste for going "all-in" against the invasion, is paid by the victims of it. Are the Russian citizens living in the occupied territories and Russia proper also victims? They probably are, that's a tier two issue though. It's very similar to how there is value in understanding the causes behind a serial sex offender, abuse, untreated mental health issues, things like that. While there is value in trying to address those issues, the direct damage to society first has to be addressed.

Anyways, I'm rambling, but I guess my point is that everything within the reasonable boundaries of the generally accepted rules of war should be done to drive the occupation out of Ukraine, as the people there pay a daily price of murder, torture, rape, and actions of ethnic cleansing. After that, there's a discussion of the degree to which brainwashed soldiers and civilians supporting those actions are culpable.