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Lemmy.ca defederated from Lemmygrad and Hexbear (web.archive.org)
submitted 2 years ago by gsa32@lemmy.world to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3191712

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3302765

I'll start the popcorn machine 🍿

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[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm tired of having to screen the same shit every time a new instance spins up with morons like this.

I'm glad they're defederated because they were by far the most screened communities I had in my list prior to learning that Connect just has it's own internal server blacklist and I was able to put their instances on that list globally instead of playing whack-a-mole.

That's something I kind of hate about the fediverse is that every time somebody spins up a new instance I have to go play whack-a-mole again with the usual suspects: sports and politics.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

These assholes came out on day fucking one and did nothing but demonstrate that their goal was to be disruptive trolls. And then they sit there and whine about how everyone else is brainwashed, and nobody wants to listen to alternative points of view. That alternative point of view, apparently being pictures of pig shit.

And then they are shocked that people think they are assholes.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

Day one was three years ago. You're a bit late.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago

every time a new instance spins up

To be fair, Hexbear has been around a lot longer than lemmy.ca

[–] rockstarmode@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You defederate or screen all sports content? Is this a personal preference, or do sports subs attract hateful content?

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not a political and sports thing, it's just a sports thing. I just don't care about sports at all, it clogs my feed. I just remember one day checking my front page and there were like 4 back-to-back baseball summary bot threads from that one specific sports instance and that was that.

[–] TheWaterGod@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lemmy.ca has been defederated from Lemmygrad ever since I've been a member (June), so that's not anything new. Looks like it goes back to at least September of last year.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks! I didn't realize that you could put /instances after an instance's URL (e.g., lemmy.ca/instances) and see which are currently linked and blocked (page search can help)

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

page search can help

Ctrl+F, my friend.

[–] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Well, fuck. I enjoyed my conversation with the hexbear folks yesterday. Time to make a new secondary account!

Edit: really? All I said was I enjoyed the conversation. The secondary acct is for dbzero anyway, just in case .ca defederates / blocks them like .world did.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You like them posting pictures of pig shit? Real high quality conversation.

I can deal with them posting links to Lenin or Jacobin or whatever, but they literally just come in and post the same picture of actual pig shit over and over again. These are not people who have any interest in good faith conversation.

[–] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Uhh, you can take a look through my comments and see that they were pretty genuine with me. I met them in good faith conversation-wise, and they did the same. As a matter of fact, I'll just add a link to the thread convo here momentarily, for ease of access.

Here ya go:

https://lemmy.ca/comment/2176499

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

your instance is full of reactionaries

[–] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

I have three of them at this point, no biggie. Thanks for stopping by.

[–] zesty@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Bye tankies, you won't be missed

[–] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They are communists that don't want anything to do with the real world. Good riddance.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

*Tankies.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Not communists lol authoritarians.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Was there any vote or announcement about this on lemmy.ca? Or are we hearing after the fact, and on another instance, that our instance has contentiously and quietly defederated from 2 other instances?

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No we dropped the ball on this one, we should have posted right away.

Lemmy.ml has been defederated for a long time.

https://lemmy.ca/post/3326347

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I appreciate the post and response!

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I understand that defederating is part of running an instance and that decisions are not always clear cut. If I were an admin, I'd report newly defederated instances in a post or something. It doesn't seem like appreciably more work than what being an admin already entails (which must be a lot!) and makes things transparent. I'm here in the Fediverse because I don't like what's going on on the rest of the big tech internet, and I want to get involved in an alternate model. Hearing that a politically aligned instance was silently defederated on .ca reminds me of what I am hoping to distance myself from online versus find more of now. Ditto for the the downvotes without replies. That said, other commenters have helped me see site maintenance as opposed to political orientation reasons that could motivate defederation. On reflection, I think I want to get involved in an expressly curated (in a way that I approve of) and/or pretty transparent Fediverse environment

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

The great thing about the fediverse is that no one can stop you from participating in those instances. You can create local accounts as I have done on several instances. The mobile clients let you switch easily between accounts on different instances

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I agree! I strongly believe we should be transparent with actions such as defederation.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally, I'm against defederation for political reasons. This feels like a mistake that will serve only to reinforce echo chambers online.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They weren't "defederated for political reasons". What they were doing wasn't good faith political speech. They were trolls who's only purpose was creating chaos. If you're really dedicated to their actions this is the fediverse, you can create an account there and read and participate as much as you want. Every user can decide for themselves if there is anything of any value there. I don't think so so I'll be staying right here.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Woohooo!!!! Free at last!!!

[–] asuka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's a certain irony to celebrating the admins building a wall between two communities as "freedom".

[–] Guns4Gnus@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

If a community exists only to cause issues and inflame culture warrior issues (such as anti-woke,) they don't deserve to be given an honest chance.

Honest chances exist for honest people. If they refuse to abide by the common rules of decency, and instead want to treat the place like /b/, we have no obligations to let them be heard.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

If you think there is anything of value on either of those instances you can create accounts on both and participate directly. That's what's great about the fediverse.