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I’m not sure what’s going on over there, but half the time I see a post from there or go into a comment section and it’s just…bad. Like old reddit the_donald bad. Constant trolling, etc. You TS just really bad vibes. I’ve been blocking the communities as they come up, but I’m not sure what else I can do.

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[-] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

I am formally asking hexbear users to stop participating in meta posts on other instances.

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[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 128 points 1 year ago

Unless they start brigading heavily or cross a line in terms of the communities they house, we won't be defederating them.

Their own communities are, quite something, but their admins have told them to be on their best behaviour when engaging in communities outside of their instance, and so far, they seem to be doing that

[-] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 74 points 1 year ago

Thanks, blahaj.zone is the only real instance I've liked on wider fedi because it actually does a decent job of moderating transphobia and homophobia, also I've enjoyed posting in the queer comms you have on your instance <3

[-] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the fact that they’re more active in this thread than the blahaj folks is fairly emblematic of the problem. They can't seem to help themselves with the brigading and they do seem to be drowning out local opinion with tankie rhetoric and spam.

EDIT: Just pointing out that if this were a blahaj exclusive thread you would get a very different sense of where popular opinion actually stands.

EDIT 2: I was initially pretty excited about federating with hexbear but I think after seeing the effect it has on the overall tone of discussion I'm pretty disappointed.

Not having downvotes does not, by any means, mean you need to post your disagreement. Our instance also does not have downvotes. You ARE drowning out exactly the sort of discussion this community is for. I can guarantee what you would like to say has already been posted and upvoting those posts and moving on IS the appropriate way to handle this issue in a meta community for an instance you are not a part of.

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[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's good to hear! I like getting blahaj posts in my feed

spoilertransshork-happy

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[-] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 114 points 1 year ago

Hexbear is really queer friendly and polite. It's also one of the few actual leftist spaces on here after the homogenization of lemmy.world and lemmy.ml. The main goal I've interpreted from Blahaj.zone is to be a queer-first and affirming space on Lemmy, so one has to prove that Hexbear is a large enough systemic threat to Blahaj's members to warrant defederating.

[-] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 1 year ago

I don't think I'd describe hexbear as polite, they seem to get pretty rowdy, even antagonistic at times. Otherwise I agree though. It would be a shame to cut off one of the largest queer friendly instances out there.

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[-] iByteABit@lemm.ee 100 points 1 year ago

It can often get tense with them and I don't agree with some of their takes, but they are definitely a voice to consider seriously and worth arguing (in a polite way) with.

Unlike those conservative right echo chambers, most of them are actually educated, historically literate and smart, and they actually provide sources for their claims instead of hand waiving and using every falacy in the book.

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[-] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 82 points 1 year ago

Hexbear is widely old Chapo. They're an odd bunch, but honestly I'd defed Lemmy.world long before Hexbear was in sigh.

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[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago

It's certainly the most trans friendly place I've encountered bar none, the original CTH helped me realize I was trans

[-] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago

you'll never find another instance as trans friendly as hexbear.

if you need to cut allies off to avoid getting trolled idk man, that seems lame.

[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

We removed downvotes so nobody could downvote trans people. We are the the only instance that has required pronoun tags (we ban people who complain about them). WE LOVE OUR TRANS COMRADES

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[-] lapis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 1 year ago

Hexbear leans meme-tankie but on the flipside they’re very supportive of queer people. I don’t agree with them on everything, but I don’t feel unwelcome there either, so I personally disagree with both defederation and the comparison to T_D.

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[-] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 1 year ago

I mean I'll admit my bias as a politically-minded leftist, but I like them. I don't agree with all their takes, but it feels like a positive way to poke some holes in the echo chamber a bit.

[-] Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 1 year ago

Hexbear has the highest proportion of people with neopronouns in their names that I've seen on the entire fediverse, and for that reason alone I would prefer that they stay federated.

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[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 1 year ago

I've had only very positive interactions with hexbear users. They definitely have their own vibe within their communities from being unfederated for a while, but I don't see why that is a reason to defederate. If you don't like hexbear comments sections then just... don't open them??? Do you even want to be in the fediverse?

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[-] Starlet@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All trans hexbear emotestrans-dagger trans-egg trans-ferret trans-gun trans-hammer-sickle trans-hatch trans-heart trans-sad trans-specter trans-undertale trans-uno trans-vegan transshork-happy transshork-sad cat-trans blahaj gui-trans anarchy-trans hexbear-trans bridget-pride bridget-pride-stay-mad stfu-terf meow-knife-trans leslie-feinberg bridget-smug crazy-frog-trans

almost as bad as the_donald though

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[-] DBVegas@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Don't compare us to the_donald just because we're not libs. I'm trans, just also a Marxist Leninist.

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hexbear is more trans friendly than the majority of trans places, honestly. The reason for this is the mods defer to trans users on what counts as transphobia, half the mod team itself is trans, and offensive posts are removed quickly before they can affect other people. I'd say its more trans positive than here, based off what I've seen. There are chaser comments that are left up even in response to moderators and admins on blahaj, these would be rapidly removed on hexbear. Plenty of trans places, this one included, also are not very good at weeding out people that are being sneaky about their transphobia and chaser habits, which can poison the well. And not only do the moderators of hexbear do good work, the dev team specifically goes out of their way to program ways to make trans users feel more comfortable (e.g. the universal pronoun tag system).

As a trans woman that is also a survivor of abuse, jokes are made all over the internet about sexual violence and its very hard for me to avoid upsetting my PTSD. Hexbear actively removes these sorts of posts rapidly, too, and even removes borderline cases like bringing up SV out of context and without content warnings. For these reasons hexbear is the main site I visit, no other site or community really comes close.

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[-] AceProgrammer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 year ago

I thought this was a bit overkill, because they seemed well behaved for the most part, although a bit annoying every now and then. But this comment section shows exactly why we probably should. They're so combative and seem to completely dominate the discussion.

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[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 53 points 1 year ago

I defederated my instance.

I thought lemmy.ca's justification pretty compelling. They are self-avowedly more interested in trolling, harassing other users, and crapping on other people’s politics. They don’t even make a secret of it.

It’s unfortunate because they do seem really queer and queer-friendly. But they seem to be totally uninterested in doing anything other than dunking HARD on anyone to the right of Lenin. So… passing on seeing that, personally.

[-] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the users takes on the CCP are garbage, but a few garbage opinions doesn't warrant defederating.

Edit: You know what on second thought let's defederate. There are a lot of tankies shilling for countries that hate the lgbtq.

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