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Not just a race... But a special race to see who's the fastest.

contender for stupidest fucking line in sonic history

Rrgh! How'd you get here so quickly?

Second place goes to Eggman as well

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[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not just a recipe... But a special recipe to make food.

It's not just a dog... But a special dog that is a good boi.

It's not just water... But special water that ~~is~~ gets things wet.

Edit: updated to avoid the controversy.

[-] brian@lemmy.ca 42 points 3 months ago

water that is wet

Oh geez, better be careful making controversial statements like that.

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

But water is wet, since it is covered in water

[-] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

If i have one water it is not covered by water

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Yes, okay. But how often do you have only one water?

[-] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

All the water in the air is usually one water at a time

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Follow-up: would you say that air is wet, since there is often water in the air? At what percentage of humidity would you consider air wet?

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

When it feels humid

[-] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

I would say when it's 100% humidity aka cloudy, clouds i can say are just wet air

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I see. You are completely right; that water is in most cases not wet!

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

What if there's no water on it?

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 36 points 3 months ago

Sonic: "We're on our way to the Space Colony ARK, so I guess that means we're going too."
(Shadow '05)

Or...

Sonic: "Look, ramps!"
Tails: "We can use those as ramps!"
(One of the Sonic Boom games)

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I really need to do a Sonic marathon to see all these gems. I heard Sonic 06 is truly special, but Sonic Boom is up there.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Sonic '06 actually has some of the best story in the series. Shadow is at his peak, and Silver's story is good too. It's just Sonic's story (especially with Elise) and the gameplay that ruins it. Mostly the gameplay. But even with the gameplay problems, the level design is pretty good, as you can see if you play the Project '06 fan remake.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah I heard of that. With the Shadow generations game coming, I kind of want to do the games he's in. Whenever I have time, anyway.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sonic Adventure 2

Shadow The Hedgehog

Sonic Battle

Sonic Heroes

Sonic Chronicles

Sonic 06

Sonic And The Black Knight

Sonic Forces

Sonic Colors DS (not playable, but story relevant)

These are the only games where Shadow is actually important to the story in anyway.

Not the ones where he's playable but the ones where is playable AND story relevant

(In Sonic Boom he is a cameo at best... but before Sega took over what Big Red Button was cooking it's implied he may have been leading a faction of the Black Arms)

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

And here I am only with SA2 and Heroes experience. I'm thinking to do the runs soon since retroachevements started supporting GameCube, and I found a Shadow the Hedgehog: Reloaded mod that's highly praised and supported.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Never knew it had a mod

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

It's like they were prepared to make Shadow 2 but Shadow 1 didn't realize that didn't do so well so they pretended Sonic had anything to do with the story.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Other than the fact that the majority of Silver's story revolves around chasing Sonic, I guess that could be the case...?

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah but Sonic barely has any interaction with Silver outside of one fight and the latter going "Oh wait you're a red herring and Memphis Tenessee is a dickpenis."

Blaze doesn't even go "Oh hey Sonic. Remember Sonic Rush? Me neither."

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

They fight in the city, yes. Then they almost fight at Radical Train, but Shadow gets in the way. Then they meet up and go through Kingdom Valley together, then when the Egg Carrier crashes, the two of them go back in time together so Sonic can stop it. That's more interaction that Silver and Shadow have I think.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 35 points 3 months ago

Never trust the 300 IQ of someone who's name is as cool as Robotnik but goes by Eggman anyway.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 24 points 3 months ago

especially since canonically (in SA1) Sonic started calling him that to make fun of him and he just went with it. on the one hand props for just saying to the haters "you have no power here", but at the same time like... breh?

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

It's a Resident Evil VII: Biohazard situation. He's always been Eggman in Japan. Sega of America, being a weirdly independent and opinionated entity from Sega of Japan, made up a whole ridiculous backstory about "Ivo Kintobor," and that influenced the US manuals, future translations, the SatAM cartoon show, and to a lesser extent the Archie comics.

The exchange in Sonic Adventure was Sonic Team proper trying to syncretize these localization differences. Unfortunately, unlike Resident Evil being called Biohazard in Japan, Doctor Robotnik is blatantly the cooler name for the character, even if it is a cold-war relic.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

That is one thing I hate about Classic Sonic..

Perfect place to use the Robotnik name..

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They even lampshade that in Sonic Generations.

Modern Eggman: "You're not in a position to demand anything, you nasty little pincushion!"
Modern Tails: "Eggman! How?"
Classic Eggman: "He had a little help."
Classic Tails: "Dr. Robotnik!"
Classic Eggman: "Oh, nobody calls me that anymore."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE7pDteYaaM&t=10m30s

"Please, don't call me by my name. I will exclusively be referred to by a rude nickname given to me by my mortal enemy. I talked to the future version of myself and we both agree it's the way better name." ??????

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

I dream of one day buying Sega and declaring that the series will now officially be following a new canon taking place on Mobius which is threatened by Dr. Robotnik.

And yeah.. at this point the only reason the Eggman name is so prominent is because of Sega's contempt for any western element of the canon.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"A race... A special race. There'll be something happening. Gawd. Do you see this? This is the diamond that I'm going to give to my brand new husband, and/or wife. It'll be theirs for the rest of time with the GameCube 2. So if you want--"

Fun fact about Eggman in Unleashed: there's this line in Mazuri (the Africa stand-in) where he says "I should've known you'd still be alive" to Sonic after having fought him in the Tornado earlier, but this was apparently a continuity issue that was caused by them introducing the Tornado segment into the game (I think Unwiished doesn't have it and thus the line makes sense?) But Eggman in that pre-boss cutscene before the Mazuri boss has no excuse for being perplexed; a competent player will take around 2 to 3 minutes to complete the level just before this.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Eggman was the original Race Realist.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

He does call himself a "master" to a bunch of Black people in literally the Mobius (inb4 "It's not Mobius") version of Africa

[-] papabobolious@feddit.nu 13 points 3 months ago

I keep seeing this guy referred to as Eggman but he was always called Dr. Robotnik in my games. What's up with that?

[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Region differences. Japan called him Eggman. But the US called him Dr. Robotnik at first to sort of make him more intimidating I guess. Both regions sort of merged the names over time.

[-] papabobolious@feddit.nu 2 points 3 months ago

Ah OK I am in Europe but I guess we got the same one as US then. Thanks for the info

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