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[-] regul@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

unsupervised use of antibiotics is how you end up with superbugs just saying

[-] DulceMaria@lemmy.one 48 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately not everyone has the luxury to look out for the community when they’re sick and can’t afford to see a doctor for medication.

[-] putridfairytale@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

another example of how the US healthcare system fucks literally everyone over

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Maybe the neoliberals should have thought of that before making healthcare impossible to afford.

[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

yeah but who cares about outbreaks of antibiotic resistant disease when some asshole gets to buy 7 new yachts this year

[-] putridfairytale@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

correct! "supervised" use can be bullshit too, thank the meat industry for that.

in a perfect situation they got advice on the dl from a medical professional they know. maybe they're a med school student and have an uptodate subscription!

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Way to blame the sick for trying to survive while sick instead of the system fucking them out of official prescriptions. very-intelligent

[-] Jerrimu2@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

You don’t need supervision, you just use it for a short time, like a prescription.

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Perfect example of why it's better to be supervised if possible. I'm not a doctor, but every human antibiotic script says "take the full course, do not stop early unless there are side effects/an allergic reaction, and do not skip any doses." Also tuning the dose is best done by a doctor/nurse.

Critical support to anybody self medicating under capitalism, but there is a reason medical school takes so much time and effort, and it's because this shit is really complicated.

[-] Jerrimu2@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve never had a doctor tune the dose, they just give me the same broad spectrum. Your making a mountain out of a molehill. When people take it for months, yes resistant bacteria happens, but following rules is pretty simple.

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Depending on the nature of the infection you can fucking die by not doing the full course antibiotics. Your anecdote is meaningless

[-] Jerrimu2@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

If I’m broke and sick it’s there for me. You take the full course, just skip the Dr and pharmacy.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Not a physician but when I've been prescribed antibs for a similar problem as the OP's poor fish, I've been told to take the full dose for the correct time even if I'm feeling better. The logic is that stopping earlier allows any surviving bugs to develop a resistance to that particular antib – and voila, a superbug is born. So the problem may or may not be taking them for months (that may be a problem, idk) but it incorrect dosing for too short a time is also a serious problem.

Also, how do you know the Dr doesn't tune the dose unless you've seen what they give to every other patient?

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

people take it for months, yes resistant bacteria happens, but following rules is pretty simple.

Drug resistant bacteria develop when you stop taking antibiotics too soon. Antibiotics (typically) have a logarithmic effect, so that the last bacteria to die are the ones that are the “strongest.” If you stop too soon these are the bacteria that survive and reproduce - the ones that do not respond to antibiotics.

You shouldn’t just take antibiotics willy nilly because 9 times out of ten they do nothing, taking them just gives you something to do to pass the time while your viral infection clears. People are generally shit at judging if they have bacterial vs viral infections.

The other posters are right that feedlot use of antibiotics is a problem, but drug resistant bacteria happen for other reasons too.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Federated Lemmy liberals are already rolling out the "the gross markups are necessary for dae le research" as if that fucking applies to century-old medicine that still has thousands-of-percent markups.

[-] ziviz 10 points 1 year ago

The argument also falls apart when the same stuff is evidently cheaper, but still profitable, when for fish.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Gross mark ups are necessary for shareholders and marketing expenses, the most necessary parts of the pharmaceutical industry

[-] Jerrimu2@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago

I’ve not had a Dr and used them for myself and animals. It works and you can find dosage info online.

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