341

Kentucky governor bans use of 'conversion therapy' with executive order (apnews.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Theprogressivist@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

13 comments fedilink hide all child comments

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear banned the use of “conversion therapy” on minors in Kentucky on Wednesday, calling his executive order a necessary step to protect children from a widely discredited practice that tries to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity through counseling.

The governor took action using his executive powers after efforts to enact a law banning the practice repeatedly failed in the state’s Republican-dominated legislature. Beshear signed the executive order during a statehouse ceremony attended by activists for LGBTQ+ rights.

“Let’s be clear: conversion therapy has no basis in medicine or science, and it has been shown to increase rates of suicide and depression,” Beshear said in a statement. “This is about doing what is right and protecting our children. Hate is not who we are as Kentuckians.”

The executive order signed by Beshear bans the practice and makes it illegal to use state or federal funds to provide the therapy on minors. It also gives the state’s board of licensure the authority to take action against anyone found to have practiced conversion therapy on minors and gives the board the authority to bring disciplinary action against anyone found in violation of the order.

top 13 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Great! I can't believe this is even a thing that needs to get legally banned.

[-] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

Associated Press - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)

Information for Associated Press:

MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America
Wikipedia about this source

Search topics on Ground.News

https://apnews.com/article/kentucky-conversion-therapy-andy-beshear-93a07354cd0ed2e7fc09c15f204f75c0

Media Bias Fact Check | bot support

[+] kitnaht@lemmy.world -18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity through counseling.

I mean, has anyone ever thought that this could also be used in the reverse way?

I know everyone is like "yaaaay they're doing something good!" - but every time I see this, I think to myself that someone -- somewhere -- is going to sue a doctor or therapist over allowing some kid to transition. Because technically, hormones are a 'therapy', to help 'convert' someone to the other gender.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 34 points 3 months ago

WTF are you even trying to say?

[-] wolf_2202@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago

Read in good faith, this seems to be a prediction that conservatives will litigate against doctors who perform gender affirming care by leveraging clever wordplay: “converting” from one gender to another using hormones and surgery as “therapy”. It misses the point that “conversion therapy” is a very specific practice removed entirely from the concept of gender-affirming care.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How anyone took my reply to mean anything different than this is fucking wild on Lemmy. You seem to have understood, but holy crap. Look at how many people thought I was being disparaging...

Lawyers are NOTORIOUS for using wording to flip the meanings of things, and with the supreme court packed the way it is, this could easily be flipped on its head to discriminate against people.

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Hormone therapy is an external change to align with how someone internally identifies. Taking hormones doesn't change how a person identifies themself.

Conversion therapy is an attempt at an internal change to align their identity with how they are perceived externally.

While I could see someone out there attempt to conflate the two, they are fundamentally different. Not to mention the data showing how HRT is helpful and conversion therapy is harmful.

Frankly, the conversion camps should all be banned due to the wide-spread use of vomit-inducing drugs, electrodes placed on the body, pornography, and shame tactics used on minors. I still can't see why they can be legal when there are camps that strap minors to a chair, force them to view pornographic images, and shock them when they view people of the same biological sex.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I still can’t see why they can be legal when there are camps that strap minors to a chair, force them to view pornographic images, and shock them when they view people of the same biological sex.

Sounds like they got their inspiration from watching A Clockwork Orange and completely failed to understand the movie.

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It's much older than Clockwork Orange. The church condoned all sorts of torture during the Medieval and Renaissance periods, all sorts of evils during the Spanish Inquisition, torture and killing of Native Americans, and I'm sure many other atrocities that can be found across the globe.

The conversion camps are just the latest iteration of violence against those they consider out of line or outside of the church.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 5 points 3 months ago

The "counseling" being referenced above is abuse, not actual therapy. It's someone brain washing a kid to make them think bad about themselves and "want" to "get better". It's everything the asshole fascists claim the drag queen story hour folks are doing, because like everything it's all projection. The party of "family values" and "protect our kids" that wants to take away kids meals, healthcare, education, and if they don't "act right" to ship them off to one of these torture camps to "straighten them out".

Good to see news like this with all the bad/hate the right is trying to impose on everyone constantly.

this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2024

341 points (99.7% liked)

politics

19248 readers

2198 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

• Register To Vote

• Citizenship Resource Center

• Congressional Awards Program

• Federal Government Agencies

• Library of Congress Legislative Resources

• The White House

• U.S. House of Representatives

• U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

• News