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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Emperor@feddit.uk to c/fedimemes@feddit.uk

Directed at @Blaze@feddit.org for his tireless promoting of the wonders of the Fediverse, especially for his missionary work over at The Bad Place. However, feel free to namecheck others working to help those in the dark see the light.

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[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

"How do I talk to my friends and neighbors about Lemmy?" No, literally I could use some one liners. My friends aren't tech savvy so when I bring up the Fediverse their eyes glaze over.

[-] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago

The trick in conversion is that you want to pull people into your service, rather than pushing your service onto them.

To use a sales analogy, imagine you're shopping for a car. You visit a salesman who's very pushy. They tell you all the reasons you need to buy this car, insist that this is the best car for you, and put you in the car. Then you drive the car and realize it doesn't meet your needs. You might think the salesman was terrible and vow never to visit them again.

Conversely, imagine you meet a very different salesman. They let you walk around the lot, answer questions about each car, and maybe even talk you out of extra features you don't need. "Yeah, the SUV will have more room for groceries, but for your daily commute the fuel economy is going to bite you." You'll probably respect that the salesman is trying to meet your needs, and the next time you're shopping for a car you'll visit them again.

Getting people onto the fediverse is somewhat similar. We're already here, and if you've been here for a long time then there's probably a bunch of things you like about it. You might insist that your friends should join lemmy because it's open-source, ad-free, aligns with your politics, decentralized, or whatever. But if you're leading with all that, then you're putting your values onto the person you want to join. If those values don't align, then maybe they'll join, but they'll just as quickly leave if it doesn't immediately mesh.

When I want to pull someone in, I'll mention that I saw some meme / post / video or whatever on lemmy, and then tell them about the post. You're leading with the value of the content, and if the person you want to join also enjoys that content, they might ask what lemmy is. This is your invitation to pull them in.

Okay, so you asked for a one-liner, and here it is: "It's like reddit, but it's free from ads and corporate ownership."

If they seem interested, give them a link to whatever instance you're on. A lot of the time we might want to talk about the whole decentralized thing and picking out instances, but if you know nothing about the fediverse then the process sounds confusing and can turn people off. Just a link to a registration page will do and they can take it from there.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

Just a link to a registration page will do and they can take it from there.

Definitely

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

When I want to pull someone in, I'll mention that I saw some meme / post / video or whatever on lemmy, and then tell them about the post. You're leading with the value of the content, and if the person you want to join also enjoys that content, they might ask what lemmy is. This is your invitation to pull them in.

This. Marketing 101. Tease with content, not with technology.

[-] Badabinski@kbin.earth 9 points 2 months ago

As others have said, email is a great way to get the point across without getting into nerd shit. I just say something like this: "You know how you can have an email account with Microsoft and can send messages to an email account at Google? Lemmy is that, but instead of sending and receiving emails, you're looking at, voting on, and leaving comments on posts like you would on Reddit."

I have had a 100% success rate with this analogy when the person I'm talking to knows what Reddit is. If they don't know, then I don't really bother explaining it since it's likely outside of their interests. I'm not out proselytizing for the Fediverse, but it comes up on occasion (especially when I share a links to shitposts).

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

I think the email analogy is a good one.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's something everyone just gets right away. "It's like how Gmail and Outlook can still email each other."

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

And then picking an instance isn't hard:

What are you into? Subject-specific instances

Where are you living? Regional instances

No preference? General instance

The work of moments.

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago

I think it's generally a bad move trying to explain the technology first, it's how people tried to advertise Mastodon when the Tumblr exodus happened and I bounced straight off it. I looked at the list of instances and they were all stuff like "a Mastodon instance for sci-fi nerds" and I couldn't get over the inertia of tying myself to that designated interest.

What we need to do is get people to create accounts and experience the fediverse and then we can point them at examples of the tech if they want to know more, stuff like "that person you replied to is on a different instance and you're able to speak to each other because of ~federation~".

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

Point them to https://lemm.ee/

That's mostly it

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Don't pull out the techno centric paranoid fanatism front and center. Just tell them it's a different flavor of cult that is generally much harmless and funnier than the alt-right ones.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

From a political standpoint: censorship resistance

From a technical standpoint: redundancy i.e. no single point of failure

[-] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Fuck yeah, I do.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

My strategy back in the day was for people to market their forums without explaining federation. So just be like "Oh yeah, feddit.uk is like Reddit but is UK-Focused!" They'd log on and be happy with the content, then learn about federation later.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, that's usually a good way to convince people.

Have you tried talking about it on the UK subreddits? How was the reaction?

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

I don't spend time on reddit

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Had no idea that our friend Blaze was a Fediverse missionary!

@Blaze@sopuli.xyz

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's a never ending task. I ended up posting the post linked in the OP as people were always coming with the same straw-men.

Obviously, Lemmy is far from perfect, everybody agrees on that.

Still, is it the most active and most promising alternative? It seems so.

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your continued perseverance.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

I tried to proselytize a techy (captive audience) friend once. I served a combo meal with the advantages of Linux and a side order of why windows goes to shit.

He didnt really care for any of it sadly, turns out he doesnt mind the privacy intrusions as much. Just wants things to work and be where the people are on social media

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Just missing some Che Guevara T-shirts and a bowl of baked beans.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

Potential unpopular opinion: I'm not the biggest fan of the beans episode

[-] Lighttrails@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah but what about jeans?

[-] agentshags@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

This should be the next trend lol

[-] secret300 2 points 2 months ago

Been trying to get my friends to use it. I got one to use it for a bit. Not sure if he still does.

[-] rain_worl@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

our lord and saviour uBlock Origin?

[-] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This fucking image just triggered an insane amount of panic in me so I looked it up, and yes, Jehovah's witnesses.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Do Jehovah's Witnesses call Jesus Our LORD?

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