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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 63 points 2 months ago

I have no idea what they are trying to say.

[-] andrew_s@piefed.social 48 points 2 months ago

You can see the video that was originally quoted here: https://xcancel.com/billmaher/status/1844938477512675654#m

Bill Maher seems aggressively unfunny to me, but the gist of the video is that it's a open letter to Chappell Roan (who is pro-Palestine), saying that Israelis aren't colonisers, because the Bible mentions that they built a temple in that area before others in Middle-East settled there. It seems like a questionable claim to me, and there are plenty of replies to the video disagreeing with him.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 51 points 2 months ago

I mean, the Bible also mentions exactly how they drove out and murdered the Canaanites that were living there before them. Sounds like a coloniser to me - not that they were special for doing that, in their day.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 months ago

And we know that that is, historically, bullshit, because Hebrews and Canaanites were related tribes and Judaism is even an outgrowth of the Canaanite pantheon.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago

The bible also says that you're supposed to murder noncombatants during war. I think we should discount the old testament as a guide of any kind

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

The New Atheist movement led by figures such as Richard Dawkins have recently changed their mind from "all religions bad" to "Islam bad".

Richard Dawkins: I'm a Cultural Christian

This affirm previous suspicions that the most hardcore atheists were simply Islamophobes. Coincidentally they are also the staunchest deniers of the genocide in Gaza.

[-] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hardcore atheist here. All religions are equally fictional, and I’m not an Islamophobe.

[-] proudblond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You can be an atheist without being in the New Atheism movement.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Too bad the comment said "hardcore atheists" instead of that then.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

They're saying Israel is a US Colony and that Athiests are frauds, particularly Bill Maher for quoting the bible.

Personally, I think OP and this Medhi Hasan guy can fuck right off, Religion is literally the cause of all of this and thousands of years of conflict in that region on top of that.

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Not "atheists". "The New Atheists": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism

And he's not saying that Israel is a US colony, at all. He's saying Zionism as an ideology is centred around colonialism in the classic British sense of the word, e.g. "take other people's shit by force".

Frankly, Mehdi isn't wrong here. Using a religious text as a source for historical information to excuse the genocide in Gaza is antithetical to what Maher says he stands for and makes a hypocrite of him.

[-] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes and he only cited the Bible to show that jews lived there thousands of years ago. He wasn't citing the Bible to make any kind of religious claim, so this guy's comment is completely missing the point.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

You shouldn't cite the Bible as a historical document. The Bible also says that the Jews were slaves in Egypt, but archaeologists say that isn't true.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

More like "they weren't all enslaved in Egypt"

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Multiple truths at play here. BM is a turd, and Zionism is the worst kind of colonialism (genocidal). For-profit atheism is not a good source of sane facts stated calmly.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

This seems a lot like rage bait. I'm going to lock this because I don't have the time to watch it. Have a great evening.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Zionists use religious texts to justify genocide so it would make sense to use religious texts against them. Not sure how their relationship with the bible is these days, though.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

I'm far from a Maher fan, but it seems this chode complaining is cherry-picking and/or didn't really listen to what Maher said.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I thought Bill Maher was Jewish?

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago

He has jewish heritage but was raised catholic and is an atheist

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