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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 104 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Why do people still think this is simply a boomer problem? After the recent election even the US is waking up to the fact that Gen Z (and younger) generations are much more conservative than Millennials.

This is not a generational issue, the problem is not age. The problem is conservatism.

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago

It’s not a boomer problem. It’s an education problem. Weaponized stupidity is a big problem in a pluralistic society.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

The problem is that people switched to get their news from social media, and our adversaries are using that towards their advantage.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 months ago

I don't think the artist is saying only Boomers have this problem. It is possible to express one's opinion on one issue without needing to address all similar issues.

Also it would be rather weird to have a Boomer and a Zoomer together in this situation.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've been saying here for ages that the perception of boomers being overwhelmingly right wing and younger generations being overwhelmingly left wing is far, far from accurate. You can look at the demographic data from the prior two elections and see that, yes, there were more conservative boomers than liberal, but it's not a big margin, and for younger generations it was flipped. Now it appears the younger folks are more conservative than liberal.

As a very liberal boomer, it's been frustrating to get so many truly hateful responses, even recently, based on nothing other than the year I was born. I kept feeling like that level of intolerance didn't bode well, and now I'm thinking that concern was validated.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s to be expected. My theory is that millennials grew up late enough that they had access to the early Internet, so they got exposed to all kinds of strange cultures and had to learn tolerance and acceptance.

The younger generations grew up with an internet dominated by mega corporations, and algorithmic feeds. Unfortunately hostile states and other bad actors have been very effective at exploiting these mechanisms, causing a strong right wing shift simply due to exposure.

Your brain is strongly colored by what it consumes, of course.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

That's a good theory. It's long been held that the more population dense area of the country skew liberal because diverse people jammed together learn to understand and get along with each other. You could make an argument that growing up on an internet with unfettered voices expressing themselves would be similar.

But the underlying racism that seems to fuel modern conservatism seems to be growing in all areas. I'm in California, which is about as blue as it gets, but like 40 percent of people voted for Trump.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I really hope this phrase dies.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a place for it imo, as a response to cliché boomer opinions

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

lol this is exactly what that higher level comment was talking about.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago
[–] Mango@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Stop saying "the" like there's only one problem.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is liberalism, something the boomers inflicted on us.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

You know that Jesus fella that conservatives seem to love so much? Archetypal liberal. 2000 years ago. Boomers are old but they're not that old.

[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think it might be time to stop blaming the boomers. We own this mess now.

[–] fern@lemmy.autism.place 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, boomers do still own most things.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 81 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We lease this mess now, for $0 down payment and 5.6% APR*

*For 3 years, then APR subject to change on the whims of the owner

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Real talk, I honestly don't get the point in leasing, or even how it's different from renting. Sounds more like renting with a different name.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Lease has a specific term, generally long. Rent implies short term or indefinite length.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Typically, leasing is long term and renting is short term (contract length I mean)

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

You're correct. They are the same. Loan may also apply.

However, depending on where you are, there are regional differences in where the terms get used. Locally, you rent an apartment but lease a warehouse (why?). Also, if you rent an apartment and turn over your lease agreement to another person, you are sub-letting the apartment. And "let" also means lease in this context. Err rent. Fuck, I've gone cross-eyed

[–] webpack@ani.social 2 points 2 months ago

mandkind knew they could not change society, so instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the boomers

[–] mariusafa -1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but it easier to blame others than accept reality.

[–] FatTony@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Text flipped, you may thank me at your leisure.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Flipped the rest of the text. No need to thank me.

[–] No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Greta Thunberg, swedish environmental activist and a favorite hate watch of conservatives.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Idk how people can get so riled up over "let's not fuck up the dirt we live on".

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago

She's a young woman with strong opinions. That's enough to make conservatives pop a blood vessel.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Conservatives are really anti conservation for some strange reason.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol using boomer humor to hang the boomer

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

"Those gosh darn ~~kids~~ boomers!"

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Boomers are all bigoted, sexist, climate change denying pieces of shit?

... kinda a shitty take there mate. Lots of them are terrible, but so aye lots of people from other generations too, and tarring them all with the same brush is only going to alienate the good ones and make them quite reasonably dislike you.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The term boomer refers to a mentality, not to the generation anymore.

By the current use of the term, yes, they all are, as this use refers to people who refuse change out of irrational belief that old times were better, glorify a violent and fascist past, and deny the existence of modern science because they refuse to adapt their obsolete lifestyle.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Boomer" seems to hardly refer to anything anymore tbh.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It seems to mostly just mean "an imaginary person who I don't like" or "someone older than me". Or both.

40+? Boomer. Racist? Boomer. Etc.

But they'll also still say it's a generation. At least in my experience. It's really lazy.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

#notallboomers

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Add in "not signaling to them that you're paying attention".