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[-] Rem@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I want socialists to have guns and reactionaries not to have guns, that sounds good

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bit idea: Calling American revolutionaries "socialist" for seizing cannons from Fort Ticonderoga

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

"Those mean evil dictator revolutionaries didn't allow the Loyalists to vote on rejoining the Empire" is my response to Libs who gripe about the DotP being (rightfully) enforced in Socialist states. Yeah, that's how revolutions work.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

What does a reasonable measure during a civil war in 1918 have to do with a Marx quote?

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The quote also underlines pretty much what Marx point was. Not "weapons are holy", but the working class needs weapons, if you want to take it away from the working class you have to use violence to stop the oppressor. In the case of the civil war the revolutionary parties for all practical purposes were the executive body of the working class in party form. Which means that if you are part of the party it is fine to have weapons.

The only argument here would be how the transition of revolutionary parties to body of the working class goes. Vulgar marxist argued, it comes from here: communism is the real existing movement, and so on and so on.

With other words since obviously the civil war which ended up with a soviet republic did change the present conditions those that achieved it were precisely the communist movement. Which if we go with Lenin, who played part in the revolution as we know, were organized in the communist and revolutionary parties of the time. So 100% coherent in theoretical foundation and practical application.

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