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[-] Linktank@lemmy.today 42 points 2 weeks ago

Machine needs to be fast enough that they can take their constant screenshots of what you're doing without it bogging the computer down so much you won't use it.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago

We're well past that point anyway.

In the XP days you used to be able to open task manager and see if anything dodgy was running, but open it now and it's like five pages of stuff and it's all just Windows doing its thing.

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

FYI, the things that are just Windows Windowsing are, in fact, dodgy.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I switched to Linux Mint recently and it's so good opening the task manager equivalent and seeing only the apps I expect to be running, and only a small page of them. I'd almost forgotten computers can be simple but also secure but also not trying to steal all my data or monetize me constantly.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago

I understand that computers have to run things, and honestly most of those things are probably useful.

But what would be more useful is if it grouped them all up. Right now Steam is 10 different lines in Task Manager. The components of Windows are even worse, and have really descriptive names like AggregatorHost.exe which might be part of the built-in malware detection, but frankly could be anything. It's not even in the Windows processes section, which I assume is for parts of Windows itself.

My Razer mouse software launches 5 lines just called CefSharp.BrowserSubprocess (32 bit). How does that help anyone? As a software dev I can see it's probably yet another App as a Bundle of Chrome thing, but there's no indication of what launched it.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Usually the more simple they are, the more secure they are.

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 27 points 2 weeks ago

Considering we've already seen people hack their way around certain installation requirements for Win11, such as the TPM chip, I think that claim rather bogus.

Also, why the hell would I want to install an OS that demands me to go buy new hardware for "security reasons" when it itself is filled with Microsoft brand spyware??

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed, but MS are cracking down on alternative installations methods that go around requirements.

The vast majority of people don't really know that MS has ramped up spyware systems in Win11. A large portion of them probably couldn't care less (although some non-technically minded folks would probably refuse to move to Win 11 if the spyware issues were described in clear, non-technical language).

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

"We can't let someone else steal your data that were stealing"- Ms

[-] dumbass@leminal.space 17 points 2 weeks ago

We had a meeting and decided, "You know what? Fuck em!"

-Microsoft

[-] BatrickPateman@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I confirm zero chance I will be switching to Win11, no matter the hardware they support.

As soon as Win10 dies the death of falling out of support I will ditch Windows for home use.

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

For now I am sticking with Windows 10. I think Microsoft will be forced to provide at least another ~2 years of security updates, if not more.

There are hundreds of millions of completely functional, actively used computers that don't support TPM 2.0, it would be stupid to get rid of them just because a corrupt, monopolist like MS says we should.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I put together a PC a few years ago and noticed that slot, I don't even know what TPM does. Should I?

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

Wasn't market penetration of win11 going down while win10 going up even though it's going to be deprecated soon?

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago

I thought that was happening now, not past-tense.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

English is very limited when it comes to verb forms, so it tends to reuse them for different purposes.

In this case I don't think it's actually being used as past tense, more like a conditional, or hypothetical (not sure those are the right words, but I hope you get what I mean).

Sure, “isn't” would probably work too, but I think using “wasn't” might probably sound better to a native speaker (I wouldn't know, English is my third language, but I think I've seen this form much more often than the present one), though it might depend on specific dialects...

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

"Sir, without a TPM module, we can't bitlocker their storage without their consent or knowledge and then store the Bitlocker key to our cloud, (again with no warning or consent gained) "for their convenience which lets us directly link their identity and sell every last bit of data about them.
"Well FUCK THAT." -MS Management

I know I sound insane. ^That is precisely what 11 does by default. Not a joke.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

I’ve got Debian installing right now! Bookworm wasn’t working for me so I’m switching to trixie. I was actually planning on not doing this yet, riding the path of least resistance until win10 support ended, but switching to a 5700x3d caused the current install to bsod after boot up. Figured now’s as good as ever

[-] kubica@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

They are still sore that people didn't just gulp Vista's horrendous performance.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Install Linux

[-] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I disabled my TPM in bios. No upgrade for me.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

And luckily, I have zero hardware that's supported by windows 11. It sound like there will be a lot of cheap, used hardware for sale soon for those of us that run Linux.

[-] swab148@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

When all this "old" hardware goes on sale, where would one find these deals? I can think of at least three places I might want to have another PC setup.

[-] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

At least on Intel even very old systems often do support TPM 2.0, it's just not enabled by default. However many of these systems are still not supported by Windows 11, for no clear reason.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

We'll see if we get closer and their numbers go down.

this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2024
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